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Old 09-15-2013, 06:43 PM   #1
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Hi first time I've ever joined a chatroom. Got timed out the first time trying to ask my question. Please bare with me. Just found out after years of having 1" tile popping off our floor the the contractor (several years ago). Did not use the proper backer board for floor. I have approx. 20 tiles off right now. Have tried many products to fix Not very successful could I put a bamboo flooring over the top off the glass tile and still feel the heat? Thanks. Hope I can find the place to check for replies.

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Old 09-15-2013, 07:12 PM   #2
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To bad about the poor tile work---Yes, you could install a floating floor over that and still get heat---you will loose some due to the foam backer---but it will work.

Glue down would be better but what sense would it make to glue something to loose tiles?

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Hi Tyler, welcome,

Although bamboo might be more moisture resistant than most hardwoods, you should not use either in a bathroom. A dry powder room fine, but not a bathroom or laundry area.

I can't tell what happening with your floor, but doubt the wrong backerboard is the problem. What did he mean by that anyway? What type of backer do you have?

A carpet guy giving ceramic tile installation advise.........sounds like trouble perhaps. Ceramic tile setters are required to be licensed in many states.

More specific info please.

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Yeah, tile depends more on the floor being stable than anything else. Any movement at all and you'll have things cracking or popping up. If the joists below weren't strong enough to handle the added weight then it wouldn't much matter how the tile was laid. Granted some products (Ditra) can help mitigate this but there still needs to be a decent base. Or did they really do something stupid like use the wrong material to lay the tiles?

And was the glass mosaic rated for floor use?

Some pictures would help. Especially if you can show details of the layers of what's there and where it's coming up.
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Thanks so much for replying. I pulled the carpet up in the threshold and have attached pictures. Unfortunately I couldn't do a side shot, but it looks like he laid the tile on the subfloor I think you can tell that from the pictures. FYI the contractor is not in business any longer and I can't find information on him. Shouldn't he used a cement board? This was at least 7 years ago. I wish I knew then what I know now. (Ha ha). I a fairly new DYIer.

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Tyler,

Since you said;
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Did not use the proper backer board for floor.
I assumed he had used a tile backer of some type. But holy cow, that looks like OSB to my eyes. Any tile fool knows you don't bond tiles direct to that. Plus you think it's "the" subfloor.

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FYI the contractor is not in business any longer and I can't find information on him.
Gee......what a surprise.

OK, so either rip it up and start over, or get a slightly bigger rug every year.

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Heated floor? Where are the heating coils?
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First off I don't know if the tiles were appropriate for floor use. I didn't ask the question at the time. Second. The heat is a mesh type fabric that you staple to the floor before lay the tile.
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Tyler,

Sorry, but you need to start over. This time be sure to hire a good tile setter. If you have any doubts, ask here first.

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Pictures are unclear. But you said the floor heat was a mesh type? And then he just thin-setted 1x1 glass over that???? No underlayment of any Kind?
I don't think that 1x1 glass IS meant for a floor tile anyway, Unfortunately
you may be pulling this floor and LOOSE your floor heat system with it.
I ALWAYS use a SLU over floor heat, This way at least the floor heat system is encapsulated and protected in case the floor tiles need to be removed.

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