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Old 12-27-2011, 10:20 PM   #16
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I would never touch the grout shield in my lifetime. It is not worth it. After the grout is dried, you seal, then about every six months, seal then. Clean the floor with sudsy ammonia and the floor should stay clean. Trick is wash, rinse twice, then let air dry.

Floor is vinyl. This is a shower/bath surround.

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Old 12-27-2011, 10:46 PM   #17
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Could not tell that from the picture. Regardless, if you keep it clean, clean with sudsy amonia, it will stay clean. Treat like a floor when cleaning. Also make sure that you use caulk for the corner from tub to ceiling, and around the ceiling. Hard to tell how this surround looks, since all you did was post a small section.
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Old 12-28-2011, 01:30 AM   #18
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I have to admit, the idea of never having to seal is really nice. I guess the ammonia would not hurt the tub?
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Ammonia is the best cleaner out there, next to Scrubbing bubbles in the can, along with elbow grease.
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I would go around and use either a nail to scrape any high spots in the grooves, or get one of the carbide tipped tools for grout removing, use that.
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If you have never grouted before, my advice is to start with a smaller amount and get used to working with it before you mix up a large batch. Best not to rush it when you're inexperienced. You can always mix more and do it in sections.
Ditto what Ironlight said. When I did my shower I grouted one wall at a time. If you are not experienced grouting you may very well be 'ing if your first project is a vertical surface.

A few other thoughts:
Don't dump extra grout down the drain.
Don't get tired and think you can finish cleaning the haze off the next day.
A microfiber cloth is great for the final wipedown.
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Old 12-29-2011, 03:07 PM   #22
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Maybe I have been overthinking this, but in my defense I am a newbie and don't even know all the right questions. What I do know is that for two days I have had my Grout split into two containers. The Grout Shield I had purchased had clumpy white stuff in it, so they sent me another. I opened it today and it also had the same clumpy white stuff in it. I figure this is egg on my face and a chance for some to say I told you so or have a good laugh at my expense. So now I either have to use the mapei that I have with H20 or pick something else and eat the mapei. (i.e. spectralock.) I am so peeved and can't get the Ramones out of my head: (should I stay or should I go.) Guessing to use what I have on hand is the better idea, although it may not be the best I can do for my lady... at least it will get done.
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(Surround, and Niche)
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It's your game now--the pros have spoken---You never did tell us what Mapei technical help said about that additive
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I'll be the first to speak up and say WE TRIED TO TELL YA NOT TO SCREW AROUND with proven methods, but did you listen? Hell no you didn't, you knew more than the pros, now your on your own Barack.

The Grout Shield has been frozen, that's the problem with it.
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It only took me two tile jobs Bud, to get it correct. Second one I spent a lot more time learning what materials I wanted and how to do it better. Plus I did it when the wife was at work. Of course, she caught that I put the last course in flipped in what tiles went were, and was able to fix before the thinset hardened.
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I'll be the first to speak up and say WE TRIED TO TELL YA NOT TO SCREW AROUND with proven methods, but did you listen? Hell no you didn't, you knew more than the pros, now your on your own Barack.

The Grout Shield has been frozen, that's the problem with it.
Yeah, you did. Meant no disrespect... To be fair though... Some pros were telling me yes, some were telling me no. I was hoping to get the results I wanted... but the signs were definitely telling me NO!
Guess I will just have to buy a calendar and mark the seal dates.

Hoping to wait 24-36 hours then caulk with %100 silicone and maybe even take a shower the next day... unless you think that is a bad idea and I should wait longer.
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Well, my grout is a little unevenly colored. Probably due to extra water from the sponge as I had to shape the grout a little forcibly. Any Ideas as to the best solution? I kind of figure the lighter color is the correct one.
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Wraiththe, That looks like an unusual tub.
Do you mind my asking how long it is and if you have a link for it.
I'd love to replace our downstairs tub, but it is only 54" long.

How long ago did you finish grouting? You might give it just a bit of time before panicking..

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I won't panic, just dissapointed. Was going for as perfect as I could and gave it my best shot. Will probalby paint the grout later with Mapei's Grout refresh. The grout hardened quicker than I thought and I had not removed enough from the face of the tile, requiring me to use the sponge to rub it down. This is what probably caused the discoloring. (Had I known about ultracolor, I may not have bought Keracolor.)
The tub is an Sterling Kholer Archer tub. It is acrylic and 60"Lx32"Wx19"H. The long overflow drain allows for one more inch of water depth with out going to 20"H. I like it alot because all sides on the top of the tub have a very noticeable slope towards the center of the tub... unlike my last one that took the water back to the tile line which was just wrong!
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Grouting is a learned skill---There are a lot of things about the job that go wrong--

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