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Old 06-11-2009, 08:12 AM   #31
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Thanks ccarlisle. Yes, I definitely can think for myself.

Hopefully, I can think the right way when installing my tiles......

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Old 06-11-2009, 08:15 AM   #32
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I do have one more question though......I was wondering if you lay the tiles in rows when installing, or do you lay them in groups of four to create a square?

Is one better than the other?
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Old 06-12-2009, 05:15 PM   #33
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I do groups of four - cutting each row as I go when it is necessary to cut tiles.

The grid system when in fact be the lessor of the evils but you must convince yourself of that.
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YM You seem to have a great knowledge and will be fine. And look at all this expert advice you have had.

Having just completed my shower I will wish you luck.
How hard can it be? Very! Exhausting. Mine was 3x4 x 8 ft tall.

I had trouble setting the 12 " sheets of small tiles for the floor. I had everything figured out and then I was slightly off on the first sheet which compounded itself over the rest of the run. There were slight undulations in my dry pack which magnify themselves.

Grouting was a chore with the walls. I had the fear of permanent grout haze and had to move quickly.

Did I say the whole project was exhausting? It's finally done. After that the floor will be a piece of cake. Or so I hope.

If I can do it so can you YM.

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Thanks Tina.

Sounds like you have done a great job.

I am about to start. I think the walls are much harder than the floor.
So if you have done the walls the floor should be a piece of cake.

Post some pics. I would love to see it.

The advise on this forum has been absolutely wonderful. I would not have been able to get this far without these wonderful people her. I love this chatroom.
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I had trouble setting the 12 " sheets of small tiles for the floor. I had everything figured out and then I was slightly off on the first sheet which compounded itself over the rest of the run. There were slight undulations in my dry pack which magnify themselves.

A little enlightenment!

Being "slightly off on the first sheet" would not have mattered. Things would have still gotten screwy. So Tina: IT WASN'T YOU!

The problem with using mosaic sheets on anything but a very flat surface is exactly what you experienced Tins.

When you attempt to apply those sheets to a slope or undulating surface you of course have "gains and losses" in the distance the sheets must travel on the floor. They will always get screwed up. The fixed tiles will maintain their positions but the sheets can not be matched up edge to edge.

In the days of a concrete shower floor application it was always possible to use utility knife to cut between the tiles after they were applied to the surface. These cuts would allow you to fudge the tiles by row or even individually. Once grouted the tweaking was hidden and all was well.

Here's the CAUTION. You CAN NOT due this when applying the mosaic sheets to a sloping KERDI Mat surface. Therefore I wouldn't recommend using smaller than 2" mosaic sheets and even then (depending on the slope) there could be issues. A slope of 1/4" per foot sloping radially won't hardly handle tiles bigger than 3". I would suggest using individual tiles of the larger size when possible. This way each and every tile can be tweaked if need be.

The sheets of 2" tiles will work but just barely.
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A little enlightenment!

Being "slightly off on the first sheet" would not have mattered. Things would have still gotten screwy. So Tina: IT WASN'T YOU!

The problem with using mosaic sheets on anything but a very flat surface is exactly what you experienced Tina.
Thanks for the encouragement and props. I had posted a question about those sheets but no one responded. I could have used your advice about the 3 " tiles then.

I had a square drain and dry laid the tiles so there were not any cuts around the drain. As I said something got screwed up.

As for t he undulations they were attributed to a few pebble like stones in the sand. I did cut the tile from the sheet and back buttered it if I noticed it was too low.

I had a larger grout line between the two sets and tried to pull them closer. I did not notice it was the middle row that were squeezed in.

I just thought laying these sheets would be easy.

Thanks again for the input.
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Thanks Tina.

Sounds like you have done a great job.

I am about to start. I think the walls are much harder than the floor.
So if you have done the walls the floor should be a piece of cake.

Post some pics. I would love to see it.
YM as I stand back and view the shower I remark to myself I can't believe I did that. You'll get the same feeling as well.

The walls were hard to grout. I would invest in a heavier float. As I said eight foot walls and of course I started on the largest wall. I had a 1 and three foot wall but chose the largest 4 feet wide. I also had a blond Alzheimer moment when I was pre measuring my water for the grout. I dumped in 4 cups instead of three in my water bucket. By the time I realized my mistake it was too late; I compensated by borrowing some powder from the other bucket.

Pictures ok, when the floor is done and I have the shower door on.

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