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dhpa15 07-28-2009 06:32 PM

Ceramic Tile, over linoleum, over Concrete ???
 
Hello,

Can you install ceramic tile over a linoleum floor that is glued down to concrete?? Is so is there any special ways of doing it?

Thanks
Mike

Just Bill 07-29-2009 05:56 AM

Over concrete, yes, but linoleum or vinyl would act as a cushion and could cause tiles or grout cracking.

Bud Cline 07-30-2009 02:40 PM

REMOVE THE VINYL.

ALWAYS remove the vinyl.:)

tpolk 01-21-2010 06:51 PM

the reason for the bump is I have removed the vinyl which was glued to the slab tho it came up easily. I am left with residue and some paint overspray are these bond breakers, do i need to get down to the concrete or can I skim the foor with a product and then come back and tile. this is in a bath. thanks

Bud Cline 01-21-2010 07:50 PM

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I am left with residue and some paint overspray are these bond breakers,
Sorry about this answer but...yes and no.

Paint on a concrete floor in the form of overspray from painting walls is generally do-able if it isn't too thick and the grainy surface of the concrete is still present.

In the case of adhesive residue that also depends. If the adhesive was black and has now been scraped away so as to leave nothing more than a serious stain then there are modified thinset mortars that can be used over this adhesive residue. Usually the thinset bag will say so. The black adhesives are referred to as "cutback" adhesive and that is generally the term used.

If the adhesive is any other color it could be a water-based adhesive. Some water-based adhesives won't present a problem after they have cured (they can't be reimulsified) but some very well could present a problem. So...the thing to do in that case is to throw a small amount of water on the floor (adhesive) and let it stand for thirty minutes or so. If it turns a lighter color and is slimy to the touch, it must be removed. If it isn't removed it will do the same thing when it is under the thinset and the thinset won't bond to it or the floor.:)

tpolk 01-22-2010 07:24 AM

thanks, sorry I got bumped offline last night ice and snow took out connection. Think what I will do is clean floors to concrete and put in backerboard to be safe. do i want unmodified under backer?

Bud Cline 01-22-2010 03:06 PM

You cannot install backerboard over concrete. That is yet another
Bag-O-Worms you won't want to deal with.:)

If you were to use a quality "modified thinset" you'll be fine.

ittnyc1 01-29-2010 06:50 PM

Ceramic Tiles
 
Creating layers is never a good Idea when installing tiles. The more layers you have the more trouble. It is always a good Idea to rip out the old floor. You might discover new problems mold/rotting etc


Scuba_Dave 01-29-2010 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dhpa15 (Post 307929)
Hello,

Can you install ceramic tile over a linoleum floor that is glued down to concrete?? Is so is there any special ways of doing it?

Thanks
Mike

Quote:

Originally Posted by tpolk (Post 386832)
the reason for the bump is I have removed the vinyl which was glued to the slab tho it came up easily. I am left with residue and some paint overspray are these bond breakers, do i need to get down to the concrete or can I skim the foor with a product and then come back and tile. this is in a bath. thanks

Are yoiu the same person as the original poster ? :huh:

tpolk 01-29-2010 08:08 PM

different -was doing search and his post as close as i could find

Bud Cline 01-31-2010 11:59 AM

Quote:

tpolk: "different -was doing search and his post as close as i could find "



Sorry but that makes no sense to me.:)

tpolk 01-31-2010 01:12 PM

not same person as original poster if i understood daves question

Bud Cline 02-01-2010 10:14 AM

Ah-h-h-h!

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