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Old 03-03-2012, 11:00 PM   #1
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Just had 12x12 porcelain tiles installed in 5x8 kitchen.
I have a really bad feeling about the job the floor guy did.

First, I do not know about subfloor situation. I only know that my subfloor is 3/4" ply. No idea about joists - am on 2nd floor of condo.

1) 1/4 hardie laid directly on vinyl flooring
2) no thinset under hardie, just screwed
3) used mapei 1 - which I understand to be a not so good thinset.

How screwed am I? Any chance that this will work?
I take some blame for this - I allowed myself to be talked into some aspects of this installation against my better judgement.

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Old 03-03-2012, 11:24 PM   #2
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It's about a condo-grade floor.

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Old 03-03-2012, 11:32 PM   #3
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I see no way this is going to turn out well.
Broke every 101 rule for laying tile.
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Condo-grade. Is that good or bad? I don't understand.

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Floor joist width and spans needed to be known before before even concidering tile.
Subflooring and underlament needed to be at least 1-1/8 before tile board.
Tile should never be laid over old linolium. What do you want to bet that the linolium was but down over 1/4 louon, another no no.
Thin set is always applyed under tile board on floors.
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I argued many of these points unsuccessfully. I should not have let them proceed with the job as they would not listen to me. He just kept saying that all would be fine, this was they way they always did it, and that they sources online I kept quoting didn't really know anything about laying floors.

What a mess. Thanks, I think.
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Condo-grade. Is that good or bad? I don't understand.
It means track-housing quality.
Not high-quality.
Minimal money/skill, yet passes code.
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Old 03-04-2012, 12:02 AM   #8
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It comes down to your the boss, you can say no if it does not sound right.
A few more opions before the work was started would have confurmed your thinking.
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I know. I messed up. They were contractors who had very successfully done another job for me, so I trusted them.
And, in the moment, they were real people talking to me versus anonymous opinions on the internet. Am trying not to beat myself up too much - after all, how many homeowners are going to know one thinset brand from another or what the recommended steps are for installing hardie! I did my best.

He did offer to re-do the job, but at that point it involved tearing up all the tile and unscrewing the backer board. I just couldn't bring myself to do it. I will hope for the best. Does it mean anything at all that the floor felt and still feels solid?
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Old 03-04-2012, 12:21 AM   #10
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For a little while. When the grout starts cracking and tiles come loose he may forget you name and number.
They knew it was wrong and just got lazy.
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Ok, I feel completely stupid and miserable.

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