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BigRedFan 11-18-2012 09:30 AM

Backsplash tiling
 
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Ok, I am in the middle of a kitchen remodel. I removed the backsplash yesterday in preparation for my new counters next week.

On one side of the kitchen the plaster walls did not hold up well at all. Big chunks missing(it is a very old home)

I plan on doing the backsplash after the countertops but need to know how to prepare this wall for tiling

Will the thinset help level things out.

My initial thought was to install the countertop and then use some 1/4 inch backer board over the screwed up surface to give me a nice surface to install to

Any suggestions???

As you can see in the pictures my first attempt was usuing joint compound to fix this, but some of the uneveness was just too much

oh'mike 11-18-2012 09:58 AM

Three choices-----

Shim coat that----it can be done---

Remove the plaster and replace with drywall---some furring will be needed to match the thickness

Use large tiles and let the thinset fill the voids--this is a bad idea because the tiles will want to slide out of position,

Overlaying that this more material is not an option---- cabinets will be buried--window trim--counter reveal--

BigRedFan 11-18-2012 10:00 AM

What would you recommend using for the skim coat?

joecaption 11-18-2012 10:05 AM

Looks like you tryed using to narrow a knife to skim coat it.
Now your going to have to sand with a sanding pad to get rid of the high places, vacuum it off and do it again with a 6" wide knife with drywall compound. Thinning it slightly with a few drops of water will help make it flow better.

oh'mike 11-18-2012 10:06 AM

Powdered drywall compound---easy sand 45----the 45 is the set time----comes in 5-20-45 and 90 minute--

use several thin coats---it's easiest that way---I use 20 minute---but a novice can find the fast setting stuff frustrating---you may end up spending to much time cleaning tools with the 20---

cleveman 11-18-2012 10:51 PM

And why aren't we just stripping the wall and re-doing with tilebacker?

If you are getting new countertops, then remove them and the top cabinets. Rip out the plaster & lathe, do your electrical & plumbing work as necessary, and replace with tilebacker. Re-hang the upper cabs and tile away on the backsplash.

BigRedFan 11-19-2012 09:44 AM

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Been using easy sand 45...so far have done 2 coats and it looks a million times better.

Im thinking one more coat should do the trick

oh'mike 11-19-2012 09:57 AM

Not to pretty---but if it's flat you are good to go---take your blade and scrape off ridges and high spots and I think you will be fine----

BigRedFan 11-19-2012 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by oh'mike (Post 1055892)
Not to pretty---but if it's flat you are good to go---take your blade and scrape off ridges and high spots and I think you will be fine----

I plan on sanding it down real nice too...Still a night and day improvement and will make it easier to set tile too

oh'mike 11-19-2012 10:18 AM

You mentioned one more coat---you be the judge on that----the main thing is a flat surface---

It takes a lot of experience to get good and fast with drywall mud---Your results will give you a good surface for tile----pretty doesn't matter---

BigRedFan 11-19-2012 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by oh'mike (Post 1055910)
You mentioned one more coat---you be the judge on that----the main thing is a flat surface---

It takes a lot of experience to get good and fast with drywall mud---Your results will give you a good surface for tile----pretty doesn't matter---

I plan on doing one more coat because there are still a few areas that need to be leveled out.

I am not trying to make it look super pretty but it may be a month before it gets tile so I wouldnt mind it looking nice

Bud Cline 11-20-2012 05:16 PM

Don't expect any tile adhesive to bond to all of that (gypsum) patchwork without first priming the patched surface.:yes:

BigRedFan 12-10-2012 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Bud Cline (Post 1057102)
Don't expect any tile adhesive to bond to all of that (gypsum) patchwork without first priming the patched surface.:yes:


Ok I am finally about to dive in and take care of the backsplash. The final step of our kitchen renovation.

Is it necessary to prime the compound I put down before putting the mortar down?

Also should I use the premixed mortar or mix it myself??

Bud Cline 12-10-2012 07:13 PM

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Is it necessary to prime the compound I put down before putting the mortar down?
Don't expect any tile adhesive to bond to all of that (gypsum) patchwork without first priming the patched surface.:)

BigRedFan 12-11-2012 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Bud Cline (Post 1070550)
Don't expect any tile adhesive to bond to all of that (gypsum) patchwork without first priming the patched surface.:)


Ok Priming it tonight.;


What sort of tile adhesive should I use for a glass mosaic tile? Should I mix it myself or get the premixed stuff


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