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Old 06-24-2013, 12:50 PM   #16
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The supply lines I was talking about wrecking out and whether I should cap them off under the slab or above it are the ones leading to the old bath fixtures.

It seems there has been yet another change of plans. To begin with, I was going to go with a tub/shower combo with the integrated & interlocking wall surrounds, but I started thinking those looked too cheap. Then I began going down the road of using a good quality cast iron, porcelain enameled tub and do the tile work myself for the tub/shower surround. Now, after getting input from my wife & two teenage kids, they all are in agreement they would rather have an oversized shower and not worry about a bath tub since they don't ever take baths, just showers.

So now, I guess I'm looking for books on how-to's for shower dimensions, and all the different layering effects of making up the shower pan, etc. Any good suggestions on the best how-to's to pursue on this would be appreciated.

I'm kind of thinking about the dimensions of the shower being roughly what a bath tub would be (i.e. 32-36" wide and about 60" long). I will have to figure out where to put the drain, whether in the middle or towards the back, etc.

So, is the vent pipe for the drain or the water supply lines?

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Old 06-24-2013, 01:32 PM   #17
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If you don't want to go the build your own pan route, there are lots of options in premade shower pans in those dimensions.

The vent is for the drain.
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Old 06-24-2013, 01:59 PM   #18
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Okay, thanks for the info on the shower pan and vent line.

What about wrecking out the water supply lines for the old bath tub. http://guestbathroomremodel.shutterfly.com/pictures/8

It's the one with the spider-like looking brass fixtures still connected to it and hovering above the floor about 18". My big question is..... Is it okay or recommended to cap the lines off below the floors surface in what I like to call the dirt hole and then go over the top of it with concrete later so as to reduce exposure to termites?

In the pictures posted above, I have pictures of the lines for the bath and pictures of the lines for the shower. They appear to come up through the concrete independently of each other which prevents me from being able to cap them off in the wall. The picture of the lines coming up through the wall are feeding the old shower. I believe the line coming up through the wall that has two other lines branching off from it would be the hot water line based on what my Dad said so as to give the hot water some ability to recirculate so does not take so long for the water to get hot when you turn on the faucet. Considering where the lines come up through the floor, if I cap them off above the slab, I believe the bottom of the bath tub would be hitting them since the middle of the tub would be about where the lines are. So, if I go with a tub instead of a shower (yes, I realize I am going back and forth on this choice), it seems my choices would be to go with an above the floor drain which would give me more space, cap the lines off under the concrete, or bust out the concrete and solder couplings under the slab and route the old lines up through the floor so they would coincide with the dead space that should be along the edges of the bath tub and cap them off there above the slab. This last choice seems to make the most sense to me (a non-plumber) since I would suspect the caps would have a higher likelihood of leaking than the couplings, but I don't know that for sure. I really don't want to go with an above the floor drain bath tub because it would require a higher step to step over the apron of the tub.

The reasons I am going back and forth between installing a tub and using it for a shower and tub, or installing a shower are a) it sounds easier to me and I am the one that will be doing the work, b) if we ever sell the house, I would expect the first question to be where is the bath tub in the guest bath, c) my kids would start asking for a tub at some point, and the big one d) I believe the bath tub is more maintenance friendly and is obviously much less likely to leak than my home-made shower pan and mosaic tile.
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greg- I'd like to make a suggestion. Now that you seem to have chosen the type of shower and have most of the design done- open a new thread in the plumbing section addressing the drain and water piping.
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The reasons I am going back and forth between installing a tub and using it for a shower and tub, or installing a shower are

a) it sounds easier to me and I am the one that will be doing the work,

b) if we ever sell the house, I would expect the first question to be where is the bath tub in the guest bath,

c) my kids would start asking for a tub at some point, and the big one

d) I believe the bath tub is more maintenance friendly and is obviously much less likely to leak than my home-made shower pan and mosaic tile.
a. Yes, it's easier especially if you use a fiberglass or acrylic surround.
b. Depends upon the number of baths in the house. 2 full baths does sound better than 1 3/4 baths when you are selling.
d. Done correctly, both would be the same. Grout can be bothersome to keep clean however you can scratch or put a hole in fiberglass/acrylic.
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Dan, Thanks for the input on the thought process involved when choosing between a tub or shower. I had never even heard of 1 3/4 vs. 2 baths. If I do go with a tub, I will probably go with a cast iron porcelain enameled.

E, I had a posting under Plumbing and it was called Wrecking Out Drain Line & Supply Lines. I guess I let that posting die out as I started talking more about how to get pictures in the forum than about plumbing topics. I will repost some more recent plumbing specific questions under Plumbing though and see if it takes off again. Thanks.

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