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Old 07-20-2011, 07:48 PM   #76
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Jeff,
Bud is considered one of the top authorities on tile on this forum. But if you haven't read through this thread from start to finish, you might not understand. This thread started in '08 and just keeps coming back. There is a lot of contraversy concerning the tile ready system, along with really no intelligent backing from the people at tile ready. I am surprised anyone still uses these things after reading this thread. I got lucky with mine and didn't have the flexing problem. But I wouldn't use another one. Too much money and too much uncertainty. Good luck with yours,
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Old 07-20-2011, 08:00 PM   #77
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Not looking for a smart a$$ answer! If you want to be that guy, do it somewhere else!

I thought this forum was for help!

The sealer I have is from Home Depot, made by Loctite and is 100% polyurethane. This product remains pliable after application. My assumption is that because the TileRedi pan is polyturethane, the two would be compatible. Is it wrong for me to consider this option?

Loctite also makes a construction adhesive that is 100% polyurethane. It however hardens to a solid.

Have a little patience please---These pans are a failure and Bud has found a safe fix---

Don't judge him harshly as he has explained how it's done over and over for the last three years.

(and tried to warn folks away from using the darn things)

Hang in there---read Buds instructions--and come back for clarification.---Mike---
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Old 07-20-2011, 09:36 PM   #78
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Wasn't my intention to be a smart a$$ any more than I usually am around here. I was trying to help you and make you think a little but I see that thinking appears to be out of your venue of daily exercises.

Also isn't my intention to argue with success so I'll take your advice and "Do it somewhere else" as you suggest. You're on your own genius.

I'm outa here.
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Old 07-20-2011, 09:48 PM   #79
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Thanks for your help! NOT!

So much for help on this website! Ask a simple question for help and I get the "expert" comedian! At least the TileRedi knuckleheads know they are just that and don't play hide n seek with answers! They don't have any!

I'm sure the site administrators had this exact intention when they built this site.

Oh well!
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Bajajeff, sorry about the deflections. Tile Redi support recommended the Loctite polyurethane as the appropriate repair. The construction adhesive hardens and seems to merge/weld into the pan. I used it in several places, including a dent/gouge and the seam for the hardibacker bench I added on one end. I'm not a professional, but I would expect the Loctite to form a seal over the screw heads- I'd smooth over with putty knife and then tile over with the Laticrete 300 epoxy.
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Also isn't my intention to argue with success so I'll take your advice and "Do it somewhere else" as you suggest. You're on your own genius.

I'm outa here.

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Bajajeff, sorry about the deflections. Tile Redi support recommended the Loctite polyurethane as the appropriate repair. The construction adhesive hardens and seems to merge/weld into the pan. I used it in several places, including a dent/gouge and the seam for the hardibacker bench I added on one end. I'm not a professional, but I would expect the Loctite to form a seal over the screw heads- I'd smooth over with putty knife and then tile over with the Laticrete 300 epoxy.
Thanks for the info!
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Old 07-29-2011, 12:03 AM   #83
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I have been doing a lot of research into the shower pans from AKW. I reviewed the shower pans from Tile Ready in Las Vegas last year at the Health Care Conference and was not impressed with them at all. That and I have not meet one person online in almost three years that likes the product. On the flip side I have meet a number of the countries top Universal Design builders online who endorse and install these shower pans from AKW with great success.

The pan from AKW seems to offer up some real solutions to a number of different install requirements. Personally I'm a huge fan of linear shower drains but can see how a well built and well designed shower pan has it's place in the shower construction business. I think there is room for both and understanding how to work with either opens the doors to more design possibilities and options for many different types of clients.

If you need some solid answers on these pans and a more in depth review I would recommend contacting Shannon. Here is his contact information;

Shannon Melvin
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I have been getting a lot of support and answers from Shannon over the past six months and am very impressed with his background and installation count. Shannon by far is the most knowledgable person online that I know of on this subject of ready made shower pans.

The AKW shower pan can be cut as well to fit custom sized showers and is waterproofed at the seams and floor to wall assembly with Mapei's liquid waterproofing products. These products from Mapei are top notch. I have seen an install as well with Hydro Ban online.

If you need more help I might suggest you give Shannon a call.

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Old 08-02-2011, 11:48 AM   #84
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For BenWallace and SteadyMobbin, if you could provide me with your contact information, that would be great. Mine: doubledela@yahoo.com. Like others here, I purchased a Tile Redi shower pan (without doing due diligence), which I am planning to install this Thursday anyway. You've provided some helpful hints, and I have a feeling I may have some questions a bit later. Thanks!
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Old 08-02-2011, 03:11 PM   #85
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Why not keep all this great and useful information right here on the forum in plain view for everyone to benefit from instead of hiding it with emails.

Scrutiny and Criticism's a biitch huh?
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Old 09-29-2011, 12:35 PM   #86
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Couldn't find any comments on the tileredi shower pan before I ordered it, but after reading the comments on this chatroom I decided to cancel my order at a cost of $248 and glad I did! Back to square one.
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Probably a wise decision, there are other more suitable ways to do this.
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I wanted to reply to this thread after my plumber installed the Tile Redi Shower Pan Question, but I got caught up with work and other stuff. Also I wanted to post pictures after the entire bathroom renovation was completed.

I'm completely satisfied with the Tile Redi product. I screwed a 3/4" plywood over the base floor and had the plumber install the Tile Redi product because I didn't have any confidence in myself to doing it. The plumber used some kind of thick mastic to secure the shower pan onto the sub-floor, and the pan (knock on wood) has been very solid. There is no flexing whatsover. I've been on it very frequently to install the sheetrock, and later this week, I'll be installing the tile.

The installation seemed very straightforward to me.
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Has anyone used The Tile Shop method to install a shower pan? The forms in their video make it look fairly easy to slope the pan. Looking for the best way to install and make it Bullet-Proof. This is my next step and really want to get it over with.
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The Tile Shop method isn't new and it isn't The Tile Shop's method. That product used by The Tile Shop has been around a long time, almost as long as The Tile Shop has been around. Their videos are done well and the method is a good one so if that's what a person wants to do then go for it. The only problem with it is it segments the cement because the cement and plastic spokes expand and contract at different rates and a monolithic cement base would be much better method than a segmented cement base. The method also segments the curb by requiring the pan liner to split the curb within the plastic curb-form. The Tile Shop also sells that system's products so naturally they would be promoting it.

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