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Old 06-15-2011, 08:51 PM   #46
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Buds not on --but my guess is that the kerdi is not approved for use with epoxy.---Just a guess--Mike---

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Old 06-15-2011, 09:11 PM   #47
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Before I did anything I first talked with Schluter and they told me KERDI was not compatible with epoxy thinset. In fact a senior tech rep said the epoxy would eat the KERDI.

There has been since then, a DIY here that claims a Schluter tech told them the opposite and they were going to go ahead and use the epoxy with the KERDI. But, funny thing...that person never returned to report. Of course if the epoxy DID eat the KERDI then he would be to embarrassed to come back and admit it here.

I asked for the name of the Schluter Rep that told him that but he kept ignoring the question. That brought me to the conclusion the guy must have been fibbing.

Do what you want but I would use the KERDI-Fix.
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Old 06-17-2011, 12:33 AM   #48
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So this is my first post

I bought 2 tile ready pans and so far so good....I used non self expanding foam to adhere pans to floor...filled the voids and everything is solid I even used the foam on the outside of the pans to adhere to 2x4s....My pans dont squeek and I'm ready to start the tiling process...so far the pans are cheaper then a quotes that I recieved from contractors.
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Well there you go......

There is a Santa Clause!

Sounds like a recital right out of the mouth of a Tile-Redi CEO.

I don't get it...What's the point in making that comment? Damage control?
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here is Santas new house... and I'll be sure to get some pix of my pans tomorrow...and the point of the post is to offer people that have doubts about the installation of the pans....I used spray foam to adhere them to the floor and it worked great....I could care less about tile ready....and I'm sure the CEO of tile ready wouldn't endorse using spray foam for installation....your a D-Bag....


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Old 06-18-2011, 08:04 PM   #52
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Its great when a conctractor comes in bashing in a DIY forum....maybe some people dont understand what DIY stands for....
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And maybe it is only right that unknowing DIY's get warned about products that are troublemakers. Think of it as a community service.

Like beenthere said; this is a "Family Channel". Family always helps and supports family and has no interest in seeing family stung or seeing bony half dressed girlfriends making obscene gestures into a camera.
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Old 06-19-2011, 05:57 AM   #54
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Those pans are a failure-----If we can help stop just one person from spoiling a job with our warnings --all is good.

Surely a few people will be successful with this item --but why any one would use anything with the bad track record that TILE Ready has is a mystery to me.
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To say these pans are a failure is false....although I will admit installation instructions concerning the motar bed is not a good idea...I'm a expert on adhesives, glues, and foams.... In my opinion the tile readi pan needs to be installed with a specfic adhesive like non expanding foam. Assuming the floor is level.......My pans are solid, although my advantech floors are line bubble line....


No matter how great a product is people are dumb when it comes to installation. Great Stuff spray foams will absolutly bond 100% to tile readi pans because the pans are made of polyurethane. Guess what Dow Chemical Great Stuff is made of.................... Polyurethane.... and Great Stuff is recommened for wood

http://building.dow.com/na/en/produc...gapscracks.htm

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Any product that fails under normal installation,when following the manufacturers instructions is a bad product.

The methods you used were extreme---in many ways more work than installing a hand built base.

This product fails when installed using the manufacturers recommended methods.---there fore I stand by what I say.

The Tile Ready pan is a failure. Simple as that.----Mike----
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STEADYMOBBIN,
I would like to hear more about your tile redi installation with the use of Great Stuff. I will be installing one later this week, and your "alternative" method has sparked my interest. benwallace4@gmail.com. Thanks!
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I would like to hear more about your tile redi installation with the use of Great Stuff. I will be installing one later this week, and your "alternative" method has sparked my interest. benwallace4@gmail.com. Thanks!
Please do let us know how this attempt works out.
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This shower is 36x36 with a tile readi bench and flashing kit...installed this in less then 15 minutes... Just take the Gap and Crack Great stuff spray foam and do not use the supplied tube....shake the can for at least 1 minute or it wont spray out the can correctly...when you dont use the supplied tube it will spay out in a large area....just spray the bottom of the pan and the floor...place the pan on floor and check level....then place heavy object in pan to hold it in place....I would let it dry for 12 hours before removing the heavy object. dont worry if it squeezes out around the sides you can cut it off when it dries....

This 36x36 I used 1 can but have another on hand in case you need it...its a one shot deal

It will work....
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Thanks for the response, since as it turns out, the pan arrives tomorrow. I have 2 more questions for you though:

1. I assume you used the red cans, as I have a few of the black cans, which are "Big Gap" filler, and as this type does expand more than the red can type, I was concerned that it might actually "lift" the pan off the floor while expanding. But, like you said, placing weight on top while the foam is curing should help prevent lifting.

2. I can't tell exactly how deep they are by photos, but there seems to be voids that run the length of these pans, assuming these are to help grip the thinset. Did you fill these with Great Stuff, or just literally coat the bottom?

I also came across a Great Stuff product called "GREAT STUFF PRO Wall and Floor Adhesive", which, like the name suggests, it is an "adhesive" versus a "sealant". It looks to be a foam-like product like the original. The only issue is that most big box stores do not stock it, but special order only.

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