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Old 08-29-2010, 09:43 PM   #16
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We just installed a Shower Redi Pan and had the same flexing problem near the drain. Our contractor simply took it up and applied more mortar. Afterwards, we all took turns standing on it and it did not flex. It was sokid as a rock.

Thanks for letting me know about portioning out the epoxy thinset so it doesn't harden before all the tiles are installed in the shower pan

Our contractor was not familar with Shower Redi or Kerdi, so we had to do all the research. I just wish he had put down some type of mat before messing up the pan. Now it has to be cleaned and preped for the thinset and tile.
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Old 11-16-2010, 11:05 AM   #17
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Don't buy a Tile-Redi shower pan! If you are constructing a new bathroom, this product might be OK but it was extremely difficult to install into an existing bathroom. The instructions and the installation video suck!! The manufacturer says you need a 1/2 inch to 3/4 inch dry mortar bed. The ribbed bottom of the bed will not settle into the mortar so the pan rocks and has many soft spots. We took the pan out and removed all the mortar, which was no fun. Than we tried dry sand, again the pan was not stable. We finally tried the Versabond suggestion from a previous post. That seems to have done the trick. We have not installed the tile yet, but will post again. This was one of the most frustrating projects I have ever tried and I have done many DIY projects.
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Old 11-21-2010, 12:59 PM   #18
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http://www.showerbase2.com/Shower_Bases_QSC.html

I won't get the Tile-Redi system, anyone have any experience with Quick Slope Professional by KBRS? Looks simple enough?
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Old 11-27-2010, 09:24 AM   #19
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I just recently was called to a job where a new Tile-Redi pan/tray had been installed. Same issues. Plumbers installed the tray but then stepped into the thing to bounce it down on the drain pipe. This compressed the cement under the pan and as a result the pan flexed when stepped after the cement had dried.

I too talked with the Tile-Redi techies and found out either they are very dumb about their product or very sly and are trying to avoid litigation.

Their reaction to me was as if this is the absolute first time this had ever happened and the first time they had heard of it. Liars!

I couldn't use foam for fear of raising the tray under the pressure of the foam expanding. Could have tried non-expanding foam but the problem there was with the built-in underside ribs and the cement, non-expanding foam really wouldn't do the trick because it couldn't get where it needed to be.

My solution was also to drill holes in the pan and screw it to the subfloor. Of course Tile-Redi agreed this would work but they weren't about to suggest it themselves nor give me their blessings.

It took sixteen screws to tame the deflection. I could have used silicone to waterproof the screw holes but I wasn't sure that would last or even work.

So...I used Schluter's KERDI Mat and relined the whole tray and used KERDI Band to waterproof up the sides. The KERDI was installed by spreading KERDI-Fix with a flat trowel and covering the tray 100%.

The guy that told oc250r that the tile would make the tray more rigid is just plain wrong. Mosaic tiles on a flexing tray WILL NOT make anything more rigid.

I also think the Til-Redi folks are guilty of deceit by not telling customers the only way to adhere tile to those trays is with epoxy thinset. Epoxy thinset is problematic in and of itself and really isn't a DIY product.

Not only that, both the bottom of the tray as well as the side must have the tile adhered with epoxy. These two tasks aren't very likely to happen at the same time. The problem is once the epoxy is mixed in accordance with the proper proportions the product is gone in a short time.

I asked Tile-Redi about that and the guy admitted it was an issue and that I would have to measure out a portion of the epoxy components to save back for use with the side-tiles later.

ARE YA KIDDIN' ME!

I gotta' tell ya folks...as a tile installer with thirty-four years experience and experience with almost every tile installation product on the market over the years, this Tile-Redi product is in my opinion one of the worst things to ever come along.

I wouldn't reccommend anyone spend their money on these things.
Thanks Bud. If after 34 years experience you think there are better ways I'm going to keep looking. In theory, the tile redi pan does seem like a good idea. But clearly, from all the comments here there are problems. Thanks for all the comments and real life experiences from all the contributors.
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Old 12-18-2010, 10:28 AM   #20
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This is a great thread and one of much debate it seems.

I have watched a few online installs of these Tile Ready Pans and they seem to be as much work as building a custom pan.

Has anyone installed a few different models? Any one product standing out more than others?

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Old 02-01-2011, 08:28 PM   #21
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I ordered the TileRedi base, bench and niche. It looked like a sure-win situation. I installed the base with a 3/4" dry mortar bed and of course had to stand on the base to seat the drain pipe on a slab foundation.
Tile installers came 5 days later and would not install tile as there was alot of flex in the pan. I was on a short time span, had installers standing and they wanted extra to just stand around. Of course all the Durorock sides overlap the base. Decision time! I paid the installers to go get the materials for constructed in place mortar / membrane base. I got out the Sawzall and cut the base out in 5 minutes in 8 pieces. The tile setters came back and put their new base right over my mortar bed which had not adhered well to the base at all. I was back on schedule with an $300 in costs for the tile guys and then continued with my projects while their base set over night. I never had second thoughts about the whole issue and just wrote it off to bad luck with a poorly designed product. I used the niche that was installed in the wall and sent the bench back for a refund -20% restocking fee and freight fees at my expense. Returned the bench on 12/19/2011 and had to follow-up on my credit on 01/31/2011....still waiting for their response. Yes.....I did get an RMA number for my return and I did get proof of delivery for my shipment. Did I tell TileRedi about my problem.....no, as I learned when originally ordering that they were not the sharpest tacks in the box. I now have a beautiful bathroom and have never looked back on my experience.
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Old 02-02-2011, 06:12 PM   #22
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George not everyone can afford that kind of rip off.

I'm glad it all worked out for you.
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Old 02-04-2011, 09:16 AM   #23
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I can't afford that waste of $$$ but I had a decision to make and doing nothing was costing me more $$$. I know that I could have carefully removed the base, rescheduled the tile guys to another day and then reset the base. I knew going forward that I would not have any better chance of the base working 100%.
Decision time was upon me and I quickly decided to move the project forward and minimize added costs and delays.
I have spoken with the Tile Redi customer service on several occasions and have never been very impressed or satisfied. Life is just too short to get all stressed out as I fully believed the finger would have been pointed at me and then the fight would have been on.
I have a beautiful bathroom and have moved forward.
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Tile Redi is not for the average DIY, which I am. There is no margin for error. I installed a pan and there were two small areas (less than the size of a coffee can lid) on the pan that did not adhere properly to the mortar bed - made it soft. To test it, I laid tile in that area. Guess what? The tile broke. Tile Redi reps acted suprise. He said I could "have up to 1/8 inch flex and it would be ok to tile." Not true. Then when I tried to save the pan thinking if I could pull it up, I could give the mortar bed another shot. Guess again? The pan had stuck enough that it broke below the water line when I was trying to get it out. I've never wasted this kind of money in a project. If I had skills, I'd go with the mortar bed, which I may still give a shot, but never again would I use the Tile Redi product. I wish I'd found this site before I threw away almost $600. Oh, and when I emailed the company with my issues the second time, silence....
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Tile Redi pan / tray was installed.The plumbers installed drawer, but then went into the thing to blow up the drain pipe. This cement compressed in the front and a bent front result in the seizure after the concrete has dried.
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Beeg. I want to thank all of you, I was just getting ready to get the Redi tile pan but not now! Sounds like too much grief.
So, I am getting the impression that the most cautious of you feel no shower pan product is worthwhile. I do a lot of home improvement but have little experience with tile. Sounds like I either have to bone up a lot on how to install my own shower pan or hire a tiler. What's the going rate for doing something like a 34 X 42X 66 inch shower stall? (I cant buy a standard shower because one side is boarded by the sloped ceiling in an upstairs cape cod)
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Total novice here. I've laid tile in the past, but nothing close to what it looks like it will take to prep a shower for tile. I'm wondering, is there an issue with just using a regular shower pan and just tiling the walls?

Thanks for your input.
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I'm wondering, is there an issue with just using a regular shower pan and just tiling the walls?
No issues what-so-ever. The only area requiring special attention is the juncture between the wallboard and the shower tray.
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Thanks Bud!
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polymer fortified versabond from home depot. this is what i use whenever i set tile and these bases, be generous when putting the shower pan down, get your floor dead nuts level, do not try to level with mortar. they are hard as solid as can be when done properly. epoxy mortar is a b****. cut all tiles fit fit pan first, take them out, apply epoxy to pan, set tiles back. also portion epoxy for side walls. the first time i set one of these i uses some mortar from lowes and it wouldnt dry by the 3rd day!, had to take it up,and clean up the garbage mortar. i always stick to versabond mortar
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