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konradsa 10-07-2012 11:12 AM

Quick response needed: Adhesive for frameless showe
 
Hi,

I have a frameless shower with a very heavy shower door. The door is only held in place by a panel that is glued into a seam. After a little more than a year now, the panel has come lose, since the contractor only used a small bead of silicone to glue the panel holding the door into the seam, and the seam has slowly opened up now. Here a picture: http://i48.tinypic.com/iwjac2.jpg

Now the contractor came back to fix it, but he wanted to use the same silicone glue again. I told him that I don't think this will hold, and he asked me to go and buy the right glue and he will do the job then tomorrow. Can anybody tell what type of glue is best to hold this panel in the rail that will support a heavy glass shower door? Thanks.

mae-ling 10-07-2012 11:19 AM

It has pulled from only the top and not the bottom at the side?
Is there a track along the bottom that it fits into? That track should support it ? No?

What make is it? Look it up on their website or call them.
All I have ever seen used is silicone.

funfool 10-07-2012 11:42 AM

does not look like they used enough silicone. Looks like only one glob was holding it in place, or maybe only 1 glob is on the glass and rest is in the track?
I would clean out the old silicone best they can, run a full bead of new, so when glass is inserted in place it oozes out the excess and clean it up.
Because of the frameless design, would not be a bad idea to run a small clean bead between the glass and frame once it is in place, inside and outside the shower.

Silicone is the right product, can be messy to clean up, rags and mineral spirits, wipe it off right away.
imho, the installer wanted to avoid the mess and did not use enough.

joecaption 10-07-2012 11:55 AM

That sure looks like just constrution adhesive instead of silicone.

notmrjohn 10-07-2012 12:18 PM

100% silicone is what you want. Its only thing holding together multi hundred gallon aquariums with 8lbs water per gallon. You wanta get every bit of old adhesive off glass and out of channels. Use plenty of it, full length and width.. Support everything in place till it cures, at least 24 hours. There are some "bonding glues" that are cured with UV light, not usable here, don't let anyboy sell you any, they are not gap filling, which you need here.

I dunno what that brown stuff is. Joe's liquid nails or somethins been growing in there, or iron deposits from water, or.... But as the fool sed, sealing beads outside would be good.

Is a mess to clean up, sometimes easiest to wait till dry. With very sharp knife cut a beveled line along metal edge, wider at bottom on glass surface. Cut, roll, and scrape off of glass. Do not pull any out from under metal or glass.

konradsa 10-07-2012 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mae-ling (Post 1025774)
It has pulled from only the top and not the bottom at the side?
Is there a track along the bottom that it fits into? That track should support it ? No?

What make is it? Look it up on their website or call them.
All I have ever seen used is silicone.

Yes, there is a track to support it, but the panel where door is attached is rather short, so even though there is support from the track, there is also some tuck on the top corner of the panel form the heavy door. I will include a picture of the entire shower in this thread.

konradsa 10-07-2012 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joecaption (Post 1025807)
That sure looks like just constrution adhesive instead of silicone.

Would Silicone be better than construction adhesive?

konradsa 10-07-2012 01:11 PM

Here a picture of the entire shower wit the heavy glass door currently removed:
http://i47.tinypic.com/mr7.jpg

notmrjohn 10-07-2012 02:17 PM

"Would Silicone be better than construction adhesive?" Yes! Joe suspects wrong adhesive used, or so I assume.
Is 1st pic from inside shower? I so, weight of door is pulling top corner of glass away from wall. Stainless steel bolt thru metal channel/panel and nylon bushing in glass would stop that. Perhaps one at bottom to prevent that corner from lifting. Consider wider metal panel/channel on wall.

lynxpilot 10-07-2012 02:19 PM

If the bottom rail and side rail are square, it shouldn't come loose no matter what you use. Might want to check that. BTW, the unit I'm installing now says silicone.


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