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Old 01-16-2012, 07:47 PM   #1
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Hi,

OOPPS the pic I had did not include the range. this should make it easier right?

I have a U shape kitch and the corners of the U are both Lazy Suzan Cabs

I just occurred to me when I go to put together the countertop at these corners how will I get the butterfly clamps that are used to draw in the miter corners ?

These cabs have "roof" so you cannot go in from underneath and tighten the clamps. Looks like I would have to suspend the countertop on some blocks? sitting ontop of the cabs and get access to the clamps but then I'd have to do both corners while the countertop is floating and then lower the whole shebang down? sounds messy and not at my skill level... any ideas much appreciated!

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A trapped U shaped formica top---very tough for an experienced counter top installer--

You will need to place risers on top of the cabinets so you can reach under the top to tighten up the bolts--

Milk crates--what ever you can find that are the same height---Going to need three people to lower the assembled top after the glue dries---

This is a tough one---hiring out this part of the job might not be a bad idea---

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Also---add 2x4 ledgers in the corners behind the lazy susans--or the tops will sag--
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A trapped U shaped formica top---very tough for an experienced counter top installer--

You will need to place risers on top of the cabinets so you can reach under the top to tighten up the bolts--

Milk crates--what ever you can find that are the same height---Going to need three people to lower the assembled top after the glue dries---

This is a tough one---hiring out this part of the job might not be a bad idea---
hmmm...

I was toying with the idea of getting a Quartz top looked also at granite. Around here I could get Tan Brown top installed for around $1,700

The off the shelf home supply type formica which would fit cause I designed it to be 10 feet long 8 foot wide would maybe cost $450 ? but if hired a pro to install they'd charge what 500? if I had the stuff there? so all most a grand

not that much difference for another $700-800 to get solid top

I worry abit about my bases not being solid enough hand level enough and having a crack in t he solid top.

But if it was ok you think a solid top could go in there successfully? From what you're saying they'd have to be really good even really really good to put this in right.

Any thoughts?
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Walls are seldom square --or flat---so a formica counter top is usually 'scribed' to the contours of the walls---this is difficult to do when there is only one wall or two---

Trying to get a professional looking install on a trapped (3 sided) top is a nightmare---if the walls aren't parallel--perfectly--for the entire length---you man need a miter that is more or less than 45*

I'm just trying to show you what you are up against---I have a similar situation in my kitchen--
I built a top and laminated it myself---then used separate back splashes.

The separate splashes hid and wavy places in the wall---
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I just re read your original post---you edited it!!!!

You could pull this off ---now you have two separate L-shaped tops--

assemble first--scribe to the wall---attach to the boxes---done--

Next time add an important change in a separate post please.
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Walls are seldom square --or flat---so a formica counter top is usually 'scribed' to the contours of the walls---this is difficult to do when there is only one wall or two---

Trying to get a professional looking install on a trapped (3 sided) top is a nightmare---if the walls aren't parallel--perfectly--for the entire length---you man need a miter that is more or less than 45*

I'm just trying to show you what you are up against---I have a similar situation in my kitchen--
I built a top and laminated it myself---then used separate back splashes.

The separate splashes hid and wavy places in the wall---
Ok thanks for the alert. They make it looks like a snap on the videos you see on line for this old house and that kind of thing, just pop em right in.

I *may* have lucked out because the wall on the stove side is a built out wall from the original wall where I put heat ducts to the second floor and when I built it I tried hard to keep it parallel to the opposite wall, I just measured it and it looks like I am 1/16" off at worst from one end to the other.

I will get some in stock counter pieces and dry fit them see if I got lucky.
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If you have a sheet of plywood laying around---flop that on top of the cabinets---that's one big square and a lot easier to handle than a counter top for a test---Just a thought---
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I use an angle grinder for coping and scribing---two 36 grit sanding disks mounted back to back--

Fast and easy to control --others use a belt sander--
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If you have a sheet of plywood laying around---flop that on top of the cabinets---that's one big square and a lot easier to handle than a counter top for a test---Just a thought---
hey great idea ! thanks

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