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Old 08-07-2010, 03:35 PM   #16
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Here's what I've got so far... As you can see, it's going to have one leg. That makes it rock solid and it's as out of the way as it could be (for sitting, that is). The tubing is not welded, but I don't think that would've made any difference---the overhang is just too large without the leg. Btw, I tested it for flex by having my teenage son jump up and down on the countertop. I figure that's a pretty realistic test.

One last question (for now). Do you have any recommendations for the leg? It's a piece of solid birch (the cabinets are birch), but it kinda looks like somebody just stuck at 2 x 4 in there. I do have a router, but not a lot of bits, and I don't want to spend a whole lotta time on this, so something simple would be nice. Thanks.
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Old 08-07-2010, 09:23 PM   #17
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If you would have welded it, it would have spanned the cantilever length, provided that it was properly anchored, FYI. However, if you are satisfied with it - great. IMO, the birch leg is ok. I would run a combination 3/8 bead/cove/roundover bit on the the 4 corners and pull out 2"-3" from the top and bottom. It should look just fine.

Looking at ur pic again...how do u have the rube frame running? i can see some issues, but I suspect it's the pic.
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Old 08-16-2010, 05:17 PM   #18
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I ended up putting on 2 legs, since 1 just looked kind of odd to me. The legs are walnut---I was getting tired of all that monotone birch. The house has a vaulted ceiling with exposed beams that are dark, so I don't think the dark wood looks too weird in context. Anyways, here are a couple of pictures of what I've got so far.

Btw, that's soapstone tile, and they are epoxied to the substrate and to each other. It makes for a no seam tiled surface. Unfortunately, my wife was out of town with the camera when I was putting the tile down, so I couldn't get a picture of my low budget clamping system. Tiling with epoxy is a bit tricky, but it seemed to work out reasonably well. It's nearly done---just a piece in the corner and a little more sanding...
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Why not add more cabinet closer to the end?
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Why not add more cabinet closer to the end?
Several reasons. For one, without the extra cabinet, there's more room to sit (we plan to use it as our kitchen table). Second, we'll put the trash and recycling cans under there. Third, and most important of all, it would've been too easy if there was another cabinet in there...
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Several reasons. For one, without the extra cabinet, there's more room to sit (we plan to use it as our kitchen table). Second, we'll put the trash and recycling cans under there. Third, and most important of all, it would've been too easy if there was another cabinet in there...

Well I see, I rarely go the easy route, I always enjoy a challenge that will produce cut above results.

I completely understand wanting more seating space but you said the cans go there. If it were mine I’d rather see wood then a couple of cans.

I’ve been folowing this since the slab. I liked the steel idea. I would have had a steel frame fabricated and powder coated as one piece to mount to what you have.

I’d like to see the legs go too.
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Well I see, I rarely go the easy route, I always enjoy a challenge that will produce cut above results.

I completely understand wanting more seating space but you said the cans go there. If it were mine Id rather see wood then a couple of cans.

Ive been folowing this from the slab. I liked the steel idea. I would have had a steel frame fabricated and powder coated as one piece to mount to what you have.

Id like to see the legs go too.
Yes, that might work, but I think you'd need some heavier steel than I used. Maybe it's overkill, but I figure someday, somebody is going to stand on it, and I don't want it to crack. Getting 0 flex on a 22" overhang is more difficult than I imagined. So I ended up with a sort of belt and suspenders approach (and maybe another belt thrown in for good measure...)
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Did you try to find any bracing so you wouldn't need the legs? There are some companies online that make metal plates for those large overhangs and then you wouldn't need the legs at all. It would be much more attractive without the legs. Just be careful that you get metal braces that are heavy enough metal to support the overhang and they should be at the minimum 18 x 18 L brackets or 18" plates to support 22" overhang. Good luck.
If you've got some source in mind, let me know. Everything I've seen has knee-unfriendly angle supports, which is what I was trying to avoid.
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We used supports from a company called Federal Brace. You can find them online. They were very helpful in helping us choose what we needed for our counter overhangs and then how many we needed. They have lots of choices and friendly customer service. I hope this helps, because I know those legs can be annoying under your counter. Good Luck.
Thanks---that place is pretty incredible. If I can get a custom bracket that'll fit on the corner it just might work. But that'd be mighty expensive, and this has been a very low budget project to this point. So, I'll have to think about it, but it would definitely look cool.
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For some reason, I can't seem to finish this off, but here's what it looks like today.
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These are good quality supports: http://solidsurface.com/counterbalan...-long?___SID=U
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That looks like it might work, but it would've been very expensive for this particular project. It might not be clear in the pictures, but there is square steel tubing underneath along with some (inexpensive) angle brackets. The whole thing extends well back under the countertop and it's all bolted together. So, it's solid and well supported. All of the tubing, brackets, etc., cost me less than one of those fancy island brackets, and I would have needed several of them to get a comparable level of support.

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