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Old 09-21-2013, 06:35 PM   #31
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You're moving fast----that tile looks good---the long tiles are a bit tricky to set----nice job---Mike-----
Thanks. That being said, I had my neighbor Josh help me with those so I could watch real carefully how it's done. He's got years of experience laying tile so I could learn. I'll put poly base moldings in for the bathroom and I finished off the marble threshold. Cutting that marble to size requires some patience!! Had to cut some carpet back because it was a 4" tile and trimmed some of the door base back but overall came out decent. I also just glued the sucker in of course I would've like to have used thinset.....then I read the back of the glue and it says "don't use on marble"....ugh....numb nuts.... if it falls off I'll just do it again right?

So the first few Durock is going up. The metal studs suck because of the flex. I had to rescrew a couple of times and the ends/corner are dicey. I'm thinking of taking the top one down and doing it over with pre-drill pilot holes. The left side is wood studs so they were easier.

The dust is terrible....
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Old 09-22-2013, 06:03 PM   #32
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So the wife and I have been on the fence about whether or not we should tile over or to remove. She wanted the removal and I told her it could be upwards of $600-$800 more to have someone remove that not to mention the mess. Finally bit the bullet and decided to do it. The things we do for our loved ones????!!!!!

Mind you this is the first time wielding one of these. It's hard, it's heavy and I was insane to attempt this....but what was started must be finished. First thing I had to get was ear plugs; this thing is loud as hell and after about 5 minutes and ringing in the ears, I needed plugs. I took off about 8-9 inches then cleaned up to minimize the mess keeping the shop vac on.....so it was hot as well. Rinse and repeat. 3 Advils later I'm still alive....but barely.

FYI the edges on the threshold is tricky with the circle blade leaving about 1/2" to the door. I'm waiting on a tile cutting multi tool plunge blade that would hopefully make this cut clean. Any suggestions?
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Old 09-22-2013, 06:52 PM   #33
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3 Advils later I'm still alive....but barely.
Heh, I hear you! Now I know why Costco sells the coffee can sized bottle of it.

Not sure what you mean by 'circle blade'... one of the demo hammer chisel shapes? Yeah, that woudn't work well for a clean edge. What you'd likely need is a high-speed angle grinder with a diamond blade. Not all that expensive and they're great at cutting stuff like this. Just keep a steady hand, perhaps by using a guide block to rest on as you move along an edge. An oscillating saw blade might be OK for trimming the final corners but it would be way too slow for doing the whole door's width.

Ear (and eye!) protection is a must with tools like that hammer or an angle grinder. I prefer using a face shield and not just safety glasses. Tiny chips of tile are SHARP and they fly all over the place. Here's a tip, don't make any dinner afterward that requires squeezing a lemon. You'll discover right quick just how many tiny little cuts you got...

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Old 09-22-2013, 08:01 PM   #34
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Heh, I hear you! Now I know why Costco sells the coffee can sized bottle of it.

Not sure what you mean by 'circle blade'... one of the demo hammer chisel shapes? Yeah, that woudn't work well for a clean edge. What you'd likely need is a high-speed angle grinder with a diamond blade. Not all that expensive and they're great at cutting stuff like this. Just keep a steady hand, perhaps by using a guide block to rest on as you move along an edge. An oscillating saw blade might be OK for trimming the final corners but it would be way too slow for doing the whole door's width.

Ear (and eye!) protection is a must with tools like that hammer or an angle grinder. I prefer using a face shield and not just safety glasses. Tiny chips of tile are SHARP and they fly all over the place. Here's a tip, don't make any dinner afterward that requires squeezing a lemon. You'll discover right quick just how many tiny little cuts you got...
Yes....I found out the hard way. Fortunately I didn't get any shrapnel on me. I was talking about those multi tools that's pretty useful around tight spots. I had a diamond blade on the roto saw which is awesome for that cut but leaves that annoying 1/2" by the door edge. I needed this done before I could put walls up on the rest of the bathroom.
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Old 09-25-2013, 10:36 AM   #35
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So we're at the stage where the walls are going to go up with Denshield for the remaining part of the bathroom. It looks like drywall would be fine but the reality is they come in 4X8 and I can only fit 5X3 in my coupe!!! Thats my excuse......I'm planning on an IKEA vanity to go in just because..... Does anyone have any experience with the vanities from IKEA? I know that plumbing is a bit different and I've heard an adapter was needed (I figured I'd cross that bridge when we get there). You would think if they were selling it here they would make one that fits...hmm....
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Get materials delivered, it's often cheaper than you might guess. That or rent one of their trucks for an hour, likewise not usually a lot of money. It'd be smarter to use the right materials in the right sizes.

If you can live with the somewhat marginal quality then just about any vendor's product is "ok". Consider shopping around for floor models and consigments at plumbing supply places that have showrooms. I picked up two higher-end vanities, with countertops, for less than the price of one of them.
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You could get a vanity of quality if you build it yourself... I built mine using a cordless circ saw, some kreg screws, a kreg jig, a drill, and some glue. Really simple to install, we just used a paddle bit in a drill to cut holes for the pipes, and its solid as a rock. We accidentally dropped it in the yard, and it didnt faze it. All IKEA sells is particleboard crap covered in melamine. Which turns into oatmeal the second you get a water leak. You can have whatever store you buy your plywood from cut it into smaller pieces, so they will fit in your car... I carried three entire sheets (cut up) of 3/4" plywood, eight cut 2x4's and about 30 cut-to-size 1x2's and 1x3's in the back seat and trunk of a volkswagen. If it fit in a volkswagen, it will fit in any car. You will get better value, better materials, and insurance against water leaks in the future if you build it yourself from plywood. Dont rely on IKEA. IKEA doesnt sell cabinets cheap. I only spent $65 on my vanity, and still had tons of wood left over that i used to build a second cabinet for the kitchen. One sheet of plywood, one 2x4, and one or two 1x2's is all you would need.
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Old 10-04-2013, 07:20 PM   #38
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Work has gotten in the way and I've been side tracked for a bit (in reality I was waiting on the thinset) but today the mortar is in and things can get moving. Got my corner beads and the beginning of the drywall is starting to go up. Decided to go with greenboard because the densshield apparently has some texture and I didn't wan't to spend time sanding. $20 for the HD van and 7 sheets on the cart....of course I twist my wrist in the process so now everything's on hold until I heal....argh.....
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It's been a while since the update...with work and the wife's birthday etc.... But the bathroom is coming along and looking like a bathroom.

All the green board went up despite the wrist injury and I began with the Kerdi. First attempt on the wall proved the thinset to be way too thick and I couldn't really squeeze any material out. Took it all down and started over with a water down version.

It sat in that state for about a week or so and then I started on the walls....skim coating over and over. Not a good time in the reno if you're a bit OCD. 2-3 coats of Kilz and we were ready for some tile. This was a momentus occasion. Tiles meant the end was possible
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The drain was an interesting effort because the concrete around the cutout wasn't flush and I didn't get a 5" PVC to support the drain (4" only) I had to be careful not to get get the thinset into the drain area. The whole thing was sloped so....let it cure a bit then adding more....rinse and repeat.
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Today the stone floor and tiling began. Looking like a bathroom!!!!
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Today is a big day as the shower was finally completed!! Overall really happy with the fit and finish from the stone floors to the aluminum trim around the shower. It's been a long time waiting. Also the sconces went up and looks sharp. The sink is tomorrow with the rest of the floor tiled and grouted.
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Looks good! Nice tiling work for your first time. I haven't used Kerdi before (I just went with some plastic sheeting behind the durock for waterproofing), was it difficult? Also I know it's too late but it's a shame no one on here suggested you install a shower nook. There's always next time.

Very nice work! DIY home stuff like tiling/etc is hard work (compared to working on cars). Moving tons of materials around takes a toll on your body. I know the feeling..
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Today is a big day as the shower was finally completed!! Overall really happy with the fit and finish from the stone floors to the aluminum trim around the shower. It's been a long time waiting. Also the sconces went up and looks sharp. The sink is tomorrow with the rest of the floor tiled and grouted.
That one section with the lights looks really good....

One question....how do you like the shower floor tile you used? I've heard that because of all the grout, it's hard to keep clean.
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Looks good! Nice tiling work for your first time. I haven't used Kerdi before (I just went with some plastic sheeting behind the durock for waterproofing), was it difficult? Also I know it's too late but it's a shame no one on here suggested you install a shower nook. There's always next time.

Very nice work! DIY home stuff like tiling/etc is hard work (compared to working on cars). Moving tons of materials around takes a toll on your body. I know the feeling..
It wasn't that bad. Take into account that this was the first time doing this and the first time using Schluter so the first wall was methodical. Otherwise the kerdi went on pretty easy. Thank you for the compliment. I'm actually shocked, surprised and proud of the work I've accomplished. As for the nook I wanted to put one in or at least a small bench but there was no room. I had 1 inch behind the durock. 2 months this took me......and my body took a beating everyday :-\

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