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Old 02-25-2011, 10:44 AM   #16
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I can live without the mixer lift shelf! And lots of other bells and whistles, just to get some decent cabinets in my kitchen. The ones I have were built on site sometime in the '40s I believe. Anyone know when black & red linoleum was the "in" thing?

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I can live without the mixer lift shelf! And lots of other bells and whistles, just to get some decent cabinets in my kitchen. The ones I have were built on site sometime in the '40s I believe. Anyone know when black & red linoleum was the "in" thing?
I had the same time frame, 1949. I moved some of the old cabinets into the basement shop. After 62 years they work like a charm.
Many of these age houses have mulilayer floors in place. Some of the older layers will have vinyl asbestos tiles. Remove with delicate caution. Your locality might have removal and disposal regulations.
There's also lead paint on the moldings. Same caveat.
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Many IKEA cabinets are made according to metric dimensions, so watch out for that too. You can use filler strips - but just check the actual dimensions before you buy.
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I had the same time frame, 1949. I moved some of the old cabinets into the basement shop. After 62 years they work like a charm.
Many of these age houses have mulilayer floors in place. Some of the older layers will have vinyl asbestos tiles. Remove with delicate caution. Your locality might have removal and disposal regulations.
There's also lead paint on the moldings. Same caveat.
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Just so's you know, the black and red linoleum is my countertop.
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Just so's you know, the black and red linoleum is my countertop.
DIY's are so, so inventive.
I'd love to see a picture of a linoleum countertop.
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DIY's are so, so inventive.
I'd love to see a picture of a linoleum countertop.
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I was envisioning a "fire engine " red. that's much more subdued. It looks to be in pretty good shape for it's age.
The molding on the wall cabinets looks to have been added to update the look at some point. My cabinet doors were flush with a rabbited back to sit in the frame.
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That top shot is probably the best square foot on the whole thing. It's not in good shape at all, with voids and cracks, and the worst part is, if any liquid gets on it, it turns white! Disgusting stuff.

The molding on the cabinets was added by me to break up the sea of green. The doors are rabbeted in the back, which probably was a good idea at the time, but after 60-70 years of settling, most of the doors don't close well.

No metal drains here. It's all PVC.
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That top shot is probably the best square foot on the whole thing. It's not in good shape at all, with voids and cracks, and the worst part is, if any liquid gets on it, it turns white! Disgusting stuff.

The molding on the cabinets was added by me to break up the sea of green. The doors are rabbeted in the back, which probably was a good idea at the time, but after 60-70 years of settling, most of the doors don't close well.

No metal drains here. It's all PVC.
I was speaking about the pipes behind the walls, not the exposed traps under the sink. Unless someone updated the plumbing and put the old cabinets back.
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I was speaking about the pipes behind the walls, not the exposed traps under the sink. Unless someone updated the plumbing and put the old cabinets back.
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Oh, sorry. Yes, the plumbing was all updated by my husband when we first bought the place. The sink was moved from an awkward peninsula to its present location under the window, at which time we updated all the plumbing.
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Let's be honest with ourselves 95% of the things that you buy are either made in or from China. America doesn't want American products. We all get very patriotic when we hear Made in America, but when the push comes to the shove we go for the Chinese product without thinking. Why? Because we all want the Bentley for the Neon price? Because America has become lazy with production? The reason is because across the ocean there is a man that will do the same job for longer and harder than what you will do for more than half the price. Then after the businesses of the country find this type of man and pay that salary with the currency exchange rate, bring the products into the united states at a fraction of what you pay at the home centers. Has there been problems in the past with chinese products, yes. But America was much like the developing country of China before. Asbestos shingles, lead paint, asbestos pipe wrapping, our home insulations.

American cabinet companies are scared that they are going to lose their dominance and monopoly over the country. So, scare tactics come out, so that people will dig deeper for and extra 10,000. What people don't admit or want to say is that there are in fact chinese cabinets out in america right now with KCMA stickers and KCMA's Environment sticker.

In America we all want the mansion, we all want the nice cars, but nobody wants to pay for it. Go figure.
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Find a local cabinet shop and see what they can do for you. We all whine about losing American jobs, then go and save a few bucks by buying Chinese crap. Then we expect our government to spend tax dollars to create jobs.

How much will you enjoy that Chinese kitchen when YOUR job is gone?

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You go anywhere in this country and you can find it MADE here. it may cost more,but how much do you put back into your local coffers?
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Actually, there was some research done recently about building products made in the USA vs. overseas, and most of the time it turned out the American products ended up to be the same or even a little cheaper than overseas! Turns out when you add shipping and taxes and customs, the price shoots up with the overseas crap. I'm willing to search out the American made products.
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I recently got the Chinese RTA cabinets. The boxes are nice. The hardware is nice. The finish on the doors is hit and miss. Some have flaws some not. I called and complained about one door that was pretty bad and they sent a new door in 2 days. Most of the flaws are small, not real obvious. I own a poor peoples house and these cabs are perfect for it. Look very presentable and price was good. One reason I bought them was, they come in sizes that the box store say are special order. These fit the available space so well, they look like they would have to be custom.
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Does anybody have an opinion about IKEA kitchen cabs? I've looked at them and I'm very tempted about the price and seemingly good quality.
I love IKEA. We put an IKEA kitchen into my parents condo about 10 monts ago and I just finished our own kitchen w/ IKEA cabinets yesterday

Just make sure you measure the room and use their design software - it's very easy to use (I imagine it's probably like everybody else's design software). Many of their cabinets come in diff. sizes (12, 15, 18" etc etc.) so it makes it easier to fill your space.

They are particle board like eveyone elses non-high-grade cabinets, what I like about them is the rock solid doors (at least the ones i bought) and their freaking fantastic hinges.

Prepare to spend some man hours assembling the cabinets - that's one of the things that took us the longest

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