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Can I use deck screws with Hardibacker?
I ran out of the green "backer screws" that are recommended with the Hardibacker sheets. I'm close to finishing up the area I'm working on in the bathroom I'm remodeling, and I hate to make a run to the store for a dozen more screws, and I'm wondering if I can use the coated deck screws I have laying around.
The hardibacker I'm laying in is not going to have any weight on it. I have a glass block window in the wall in the shower, and I'm lining the area around that window with strips of hardibacker so I can tile over top of that. Sooooo since the most weight that will be applied is a bottle of shampoo or two sitting on the ledge of the window, is it okay to use outdoor deck screws to install these strips of backer? |
Deck screws will work fine.Did you use Hardi for the entire shower? If so,did you put a vapor barrier behind or do you have liquid waterproofing planned for the surface of the Hardi?
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No vapor barrier. I was under the impression one wasn't needed with the hardibacker (recommended by some, but not needed). I did seal the joints with mesh tape and thinset. |
I was asking because you need a vapor barrier or waterproofing product such as Redguard that's applied to the Hardi.
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The Hardi needs a moisture barrier attached to the studs behind the Hardi,
or, waterproofing on the surface of the Hardi but not both.:) Weight on the wallboard (Hardi) isn't the issue with using the proper screws. The screws should be alkali resistant, galvanized deck screws don't qualify.:) The issue is corrosion from the cement products.:) |
Okay, I went out and got the backer-on screws. But I have to ask about the vapor barrier. I thought the whole purpose of hardibacker was to provide moisture-proof wall and floor panelling?
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No the hardibacker will let moisture through so you will need to protect the wall studs or put red Guard or similar on the surface. Dennshield is water proof.
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Hardibacker is not damaged by moisture but it is in no way a moisture barrier.:)
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Drywall or gypsum products will turn to mush if they get wet. The paper on them is a favorite mold food. The purpose of hardibacker or CBU is to provide a stable surface that won't do either of the above if it gets wet. However hardibacker can and will absorb water. Try it on a scrap. |
deck screws are fine.
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Deck screws have never been "fine" and technically are contrary to building codes. The Hardi company makes clear recommendations for the installation of their products. Always follow the manufacturers recommendations.:)
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