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Old 12-14-2012, 04:24 PM   #16
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The last post is the best option.
Counter tops and the cabinets have to be level, the kick plate and 1/4 round will make up for where it's off.
Personally I think that quarter round detracts from the clean look I am going (it's a modern kitchen) for which is why I was looking for alternatives.

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Old 12-14-2012, 04:37 PM   #17
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Then scrib in the toe kick.
No one's ever going to be getting on the hands and knees to look at the 1/4 round.
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Old 12-14-2012, 04:44 PM   #18
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Just to clarify -
It's not that hard to rip down kick-plates.
(I know - it's a pain!)
Don't assume that; because, you have an appliance in the middle of a "run"
of cabinets - you can alter the height of the counter-top ...
sticks out like a "sore thumb"!
Seen it "way" too many times!!
(The human eye can be "fooled" - not always, though!)
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Then scrib in the toe kick.
No one's ever going to be getting on the hands and knees to look at the 1/4 round.
What!?!
I always crawl around on kitchen floors to look at the "kick-plate"!
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Just to clarify -
It's not that hard to rip down kick-plates.
(I know - it's a pain!)
Don't assume that; because, you have an appliance in the middle of a "run"
of cabinets - you can alter the height of the counter-top ...
sticks out like a "sore thumb"!
Seen it "way" too many times!!
(The human eye can be "fooled" - not always, though!)

Great input, thanks. I guess I order some new wider prefinished kick plates or cut and finish some myself.
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Old 12-14-2012, 05:11 PM   #21
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Good!
One never knows if the floor you're going to set the cabinets on is perfectly level and the walls are perfectly straight!
(Usually - NOT!)

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Good!
One never knows if the floor you're going to set the cabinets on is perfectly level and the walls are perfectly straight!
(Usually - NOT!)

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Thanks for the advice. So you also prefer the option of wider kick plates instead of building up the finish floor by simply using a thicker underlayment than I had originally planned for?

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Old 12-15-2012, 07:56 AM   #23
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Thanks for the advice. So you also prefer the option of wider kick plates instead of building up the finish floor by simply using a thicker underlayment than I had originally planned for?

Happy holidays to you as well.
Well -
if the floor is out of level -
I don't know what type of underlayment you would use to make it level.
We've used "flow-crete"/"gyp-crete" a couple of times.
(For extreme, situations)

However, if you use those -
It has to be a very "quick" pour (better have some "man-power"!)
It will also affect the transition from the kitchen to floors in adjoining rooms.

Probably, better to shim the cabinets to level.
If you're going to put in wood floors - put them in first - then the cabinets.
If you're going to use some type of tile (ceramic, vinyl ...) -
Put the cabinets in first - then, the floor, then kick-plate.
Good luck!

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(Make sure the sub-strate/sub-floor is prepared properly)

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Well -
if the floor is out of level -
I don't know what type of underlayment you would use to make it level.
We've used "flow-crete"/"gyp-crete" a couple of times.
(For extreme, situations)
Thanks again for the input Rossfingal. Actually I was not thinking about leveling the floor, just raising the entire finish floor by 3/8". This way I could cover the gap on the low side, but the finish floor would end up 3/8" high relative to the cabinet bottom on the other side. Not an issue for the dishwasher since it is on the low side. What it would mean is that I can use my existing kickplates ripping them to size on the high side of the floor instead of buying some new kickplates.

Sorry for the confusing question last time.

By the way, I installed half of the low side run last night and followed your advice to shim them to be in plane with the other runs.
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Not sure if opening height for the dishwasher was mentioned. You want about 34" between the bottom of the counter top and the finished floor so you can slide in the dishwasher. When striking the level line for the cabinets, keep the floor thickness in mind.

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