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naulleau 12-14-2012 12:44 PM

Cabinets on out of level floor
 
I am installing semi custom cabinets and need to deal with a 3/8" floor drop between two separate runs of cabinets separated by a refrigerator.

Doing the cabinets before the floor. My options are to shim up the low side and cover the gap to the floor with extra molding (the prefinished kick plates are not oversized). Not a big fan of the cluttered look this might lead to.

Another option would be to build up the finish floor to take care of the gap, which should be OK since the dishwasher is on the low side of the kitchen.

A third option I am considering since the run is broken is simply to reset the level for the second run meaning that on the low side of the floor the cabinets would still be ~34.5" off the floor. Not sure if the 1/2" countertop offset would be noticeable when broken up by the fridge.

Any advice as to the best way to proceed would be greatly appreciated.

oh'mike 12-14-2012 12:55 PM

Are you dealing with a single high place that raised the first bank of cabinets? If so--shortening the bottoms of the cabinets is an option--

I think ordering or making a new taller toe kick might be a simple solution---

The big trouble with uneven counter height happens when the back splash gets tiled----

oh'mike 12-14-2012 01:16 PM

Why are you installing the cabinets before the new floor?

How thick is the new flooring? Will that screw up the clearance for the fridge and dishwasher?

naulleau 12-14-2012 01:23 PM

Not a single low spot. The entire floor is sloped so one side of the kitchen is 3/8" lower than the other. Good thought on the wider kick plates. The backsplash will not be continuous since I have the fridge in between the two sections.

naulleau 12-14-2012 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by oh'mike (Post 1073000)
Why are you installing the cabinets before the new floor?

How thick is the new flooring? Will that screw up the clearance for the fridge and dishwasher?

I have already built up the floor under the cabinets to compensate for the tile thickness. Did a lot of research into the pros and cons of doing finish floor before and after and in the end decided to go with doing the finish floor after.

oh'mike 12-14-2012 01:29 PM

I doubt if any one but you will see the height difference----If I had a vote--it would be for 3/8" height difference--

oh'mike 12-14-2012 01:34 PM

Just a note---I've never done that---I always find a way to keep the counters the same height---

naulleau 12-14-2012 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oh'mike (Post 1073014)
Just a note---I've never done that---I always find a way to keep the counters the same height---

So in this particular case you would break your rule of "ALWAYS" keeping the counters at the same absolute height?

Thanks for all the feedback.

oh'mike 12-14-2012 01:44 PM

I get paid to do things in the ideal fashion---so I would do it so all counters are the same height----no call backs and unhappy customers---

However---if it were my house and I was the 'customer"? I'd install it out of plane and never think of it again---

woodworkbykirk 12-14-2012 02:26 PM

if anyone with a even semi good eye will notice the height difference immediately.. if your worried about the dishwasher clearance after the finish floor is installed determine the height required where the washer goes and use that as your benchmark.. from that point strike a level line all the way around where the cabinets are going and shim them to be at the line

naulleau 12-14-2012 02:41 PM

Thanks. The only thing I was worried about is cleanly taking care of the gap I will have from the cabinet to the floor on the low side of the floor. The options I have considered in that case are 1) extra shoe molding that I don't really like, 2) get wider kick plate that I can cut down to size, 3) raise the whole finish floor to take care of the gap, this would work since the dishwasher is at the low point and thus the dishwasher would end up with exactly 34.5" from finish floor to top of cabinet.

rossfingal 12-14-2012 03:15 PM

Find the high point of the floor -
Start there -
Shim the cabinets up to level - at the lower spots of the floor -
(Don't assume the walls are straight - might have to shim between the
walls and the cabinets).
I don't know the layout of the kitchen - cabinets on both sides?
Cover the gap at the bottom with the "kick-plate".
Keep the counter-tops level!
A handful of marbles, rolling across a counter-top sure does show things!
:)

joecaption 12-14-2012 03:21 PM

The last post is the best option.
Counter tops and the cabinets have to be level, the kick plate and 1/4 round will make up for where it's off.

naulleau 12-14-2012 03:22 PM

So your recommendation is to replace the stock kick plates with wider ones that I can cut to size?

rossfingal 12-14-2012 03:24 PM

Yes!
Keep the counter-tops level - right to left and front to back!


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