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Old 02-06-2011, 10:09 PM   #16
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Being too picky about 1/16" off perfect level?


Let them throw a few more screws in and see if it works. Other than being a little off it looks great.

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Old 02-06-2011, 10:30 PM   #17
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yep you are are being to picky.
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Old 02-06-2011, 11:39 PM   #18
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let go and let god. 1/16 is within tolerance depending on who u ask. looks like a damn good job. not to be rude but does your boss stand over you and give you the same treatment? just curious.
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Old 02-07-2011, 09:16 AM   #19
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Perhaps my expectations are too high. Our granite countertops went in and the raised penisula bar top is 1/16" out of level. The bubble is between the lines but just a hair off.

The bar top has a 12" overhang and one side of it meets the drywall. 4 feet wide and 21" deep. the 1/16" drop is across the 21" section. I don't think anybody else would see it but I can as the top of the bar is 5" below a window sill so I can see it.

The installers fix was to drive a wood screw through the bottom plywood under the overhang and push that side up level then cut the screw. Well one screw did it for a few hours. I came home from work and it looks like the Liquid nails was stronger than the screw as it is back where it was.

Now the installer says then need to put more screws in. I am think if one didn't work how will more fix it? I just don't want to have the granite get cracked.

At this point they will not be able to remove the top without breaking the slab. So, I guess I am screwed. It's strange that they are acting like it's not a big deal as the bubble is between the lines on the level and they tell me it's only a 1/16th of an inch.

Am I being unreasonable?
It's a flat piece of raised stone. All that had to be done was to shim up a side to level and put a few dabs of silicone caulk to hold it in place.
I don't understand either the screws or the construction adhesive.
And while the 1/16" issue is a little anal, it could have been easily adjusted without the construction adhesive.
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Ron,
That was my initial thought too.
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Two things come to mind...

1. Natural stone is not perfect and "out-of-plane-surfaces" are a characteristic of the natural stone.

2. Of greater concern to me is using screws to lift the stone into "your" tolerance expectations. (If that is what you are describing.) You can expect to wake up one morning and find that counter top snapped in multiple pieces from the (point-load) forces the stone is exerting on itself because of the screws. I would get those screws out of there immediately if not much sooner. Under those conditions that stone is very very fragile.

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I can definately see what the OP is talking about in the Pics. As long as it is stable, I would let it go. If it has the potential to drop more, it should be addressed by the installer IMO.
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thx for the feedback, I give up, there is no fix without breaking the slab. Considering we spent 2 months looking for these two slabs I would hate to have something happen to it. It just sucks that it was perfectly level when I went in the kitchen until one of the installers pushed the backsplash (which was too tall) under the bar top causing it to shift. We will just leave it alone and there is no viable fix at this point. I saw it a hour later but they told me if they pulled the top off the adhesive my not hold it in place when they put it back down, now I find out that was a load of BS. I guess there is no such thing as perfect, or dare I say doing it right.
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You can fix it if you really want too. No you will not break the slab either but you need to break the glue and silicon with a putty knife about 5 foot each way. Then you can use the composite shims and glue it back down and it will be fine but for the work it is going to take it is really not worth it.

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