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Old 06-14-2012, 09:05 AM   #1
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Bath tub is installed, but room to play with on right side.


Our tub is a left drain, which also has a shower surround. The tub and shower surround is some sort of Vikrell that has to go right to the studs. Now that I'm finishing up drywalling the rest of the bathroom with some green board, I need to tackle this issue. In between the already installed tub and the wall on the right side (tub was moved all the way to the left for drain fittings, etc) I have about 3/4-7/8 worth of empty space.

So, I of course have to shim the wall out, but that leaves me with a new question. The shower surround (I believe) is a 3 piece surround. What's the best way to transition it as it comes off of the surround and transitions into the regular wall with the drywall? I was thinking (if I wanted to invest a few extra minutes and some extra mud) I could pile on the mud and sand it smooth to have a smoother transition. Either that or unless there's some sort of deeper trim that can make it a snappier process... I'm just not sure, as the last setup was a cast iron tub with little 3x3 or 4x4 tiles, so they just kind of plastered the tiles wherever they could fit whereas with the shower surround, it's a big honkin piece that I need to make sure sits nicely and flush.

Any ideas are appreciated.

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Old 06-14-2012, 09:14 AM   #2
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Post a picture---in order for that to look right,you may need to shim out the entire wall--or overlay drywall to minimize the difference.

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Old 06-14-2012, 09:47 AM   #3
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Post a picture---in order for that to look right,you may need to shim out the entire wall--or overlay drywall to minimize the difference.
I thought as I was posting this, man, I need a screenshot... I'll get one this afternoon. I figured I'd post anyway for some generic opinions until then.

I thought about shimming the entire wall as well, but the more I thought about it, the more I wasn't sure how necessary it was. That being said, I'm not a builder - just a computer technician who is trying to save some bucks and tackle this bathroom remodel himself.
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Old 06-14-2012, 11:12 AM   #4
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Mud is not a filler for anything other than the joints between drywall. Shim is out and return around the ell of the wall back to the rest of the drywall's surface. I had a bathroom that was just under 2" wider than the tub's tile lip. I shimmed the walls on each side to allow for a smooth wall along both sides. In retrospect it would have looked just a decent with a lip return on the sides. See if you can purchase a bullnose strip to handle the transition from the surround back over the shimmed out bit of wall. Otherwise, yeah, you're going to have to either shim that right wall or just double-up the drywall on it to bring it out the surround's plane.
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Old 06-14-2012, 11:22 AM   #5
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Ya know, doubling up on drywall isn't a bad option. Maybe I could just shim some wood (I have some treated lumber that's a very convenient width) for the area that'll be under the surround, then double drywall it up to the lip...

I'll have to give this some more thought, but it sounds pretty to me.
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Old 06-14-2012, 11:39 AM   #6
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No, don't use treated lumber there, that's not intended for that use, and may have issues with whatever fasteners get used on the wall (today or at later dates). Just pick up furring strips or use a table saw to rip them down from regular lumber.

You are putting a moisture membrane behind that surround, right? Something to prevent any moisture from getting to the framing? And is that surround rigid enough to handle being attached right to studs? Some aren't, they're designed to go over some kind of underlying material. Be it green drywall or cement board. Might be worth checking the vendor's website for it just to be certain.
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No, don't use treated lumber there, that's not intended for that use, and may have issues with whatever fasteners get used on the wall (today or at later dates). Just pick up furring strips or use a table saw to rip them down from regular lumber.

You are putting a moisture membrane behind that surround, right? Something to prevent any moisture from getting to the framing? And is that surround rigid enough to handle being attached right to studs? Some aren't, they're designed to go over some kind of underlying material. Be it green drywall or cement board. Might be worth checking the vendor's website for it just to be certain.
Check on the treated lumber, I'll look for the suggested alternative.

And no, I wasn't planning on putting anything behind the surround. Originally I was going to do drywall but a lot of users on this forum were like... why? So, I chose not to. Is that to say the moisture membrane is still the way to go? I suppose it makes sense since there are outlets in the wall for the other room, but I kind of took it as I was just to let it alone.

The surround in particular is meant to go to the studs as per manufacturer, hence why I was going that route. I had a tub surround before that I returned (flimsy piece of garbage) that was a different story.
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The surround in particular is meant to go to the studs as per manufacturer, hence why I was going that route. I had a tub surround before that I returned (flimsy piece of garbage) that was a different story.
Great, then you know exactly what I was mentioning.
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Old 06-15-2012, 12:27 AM   #9
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No picture available yet (got home super late) but swung by the hardware store this afternoon. I picked up some rubber matting to put behind the shower surround. It was pretty thick stuff (40 mil) but it's all I could find unless I wanted to put an actual blue tarp behind the surround, which I wasn't too keen on.

I picked up some more wood too to shim the wall out. I figure I'll shim the wall out where it's needed for the surround, and double up on drywall above that to ease the transition. It should work nicely since I have some extra drywall... More info to come...


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