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Old 01-15-2012, 11:09 AM   #1
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New bathroom in basement. Using a fiberglass finished shower pan. Going to tile the walls around the shower.
Questions:
1) Can I use the moisture resistant green drywall as the backer board on the walls (under the tile)?
2) If I shouldn't use the green drywall and should use, say durock, can I stop the durock just shy of the where the tile will end so that once I get the tile installed all you see is green type drywall. That just seems like it would be much easier finishing than if you had durock showing at all after the tile was installed.

Any advice or suggestions will be appreciated.
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Old 01-15-2012, 11:18 AM   #2
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No green board in the wet area----Durrock or other cement backer up to 6 feet or more--

tile should hide seam with the drywall---

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Just make sure to use 1/2 Durock, tape the seams with fiberglass tape set in thin set and apply a water prrof membrane over the tile board (the best way) or use red guard over all it the tile board. Tile board it's self is not water proof.
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how do you make sure the shower is water proof?
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Just make sure to use 1/2 Durock, tape the seams with fiberglass tape set in thin set and apply a water prrof membrane over the tile board (the best way) or use red guard over all it the tile board. Tile board it's self is not water proof.
When you say apply a water proof membrane over the durock could you be more specific. Could you give me an idea of what type of membrane you mean. ie. something I could buy at Lowes or Menards?

Thanks for the help.
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For a 'bullet proof' shower--it is bestt to make the surface of the shower backer board water proof--

Use tilers mesh--alkali resistant mesh tape--then lightly tape the seams using a modified thinset,
don't leave any high spots or your tile will be high in that spot---

Then paint the walls with a water proofing liquid--RedGuard by Custom is available at the Home Depot.
Menards has one by Mepei that I have never used.

I prefer Hydro Ban by Latacrete--That one is much more expensive--but is a thicker product that will fill the mesh without needing to mud the seams---Hydro ban is available at many tile suppliers.
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Thanks Oh'Mike.

If we do the following would this be a prober installation?

1. We are at the stud walls of a new installation. Using fiberglass pan.

2. Install vapor barrier over studs using either plastic or roofing felt.

3. Install backerboard (durock) all around shower stall where tile will be placed.

4. Tape the seams using fiberglass tape and cover with a thin coat of modified thinset.

5. Coat the entire surface with redguard (or similar product).

6. Ready for tile installation ?

Any thoughts or recommendations? Thanks.

ps. I'm not ignoring the good and recommendations above. I'm just trying to put in my own words so I am sure I understand or have the right picture of exactly what we should do.
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Skip the vapor barrier--If you water proof the face you don't need (or want ) a vapor barrier.

The rest sounds good----Look at the blogs by Bud Cline---I believe he has one called "Preparing a wall for tile"---He knows his tile work and has many good blogs and posts---Mike---

One last thought---if you want a shower door--make sure you have a stud in place to attach it to.

If you ever think safety grab rails might be needed--add blocking to them ---It's easy now and impossible after the wall is tiled.
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Thanks Mike I appreciate your help and advice. Will leave off the vapor barrier. And we have thought about the studs for attaching the doors.

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Another question. Was at Lowes and Menards looking to see what they had available in terms of backerboard and their equivalent of "redgard" sealer. They both carried Mapei's brand of sealer (Mapelastic Aqua Guard).

Anyway, when I was talking with the salesman at Lowes he stated it was his understanding that Durock should not be installed on a wall by itself without something else behind it, like drywall. I just said that was news to me, but since I've always used Durock on floors I just wasn't sure. The Lowes fellow was recommending 1/2" hardiebacker by JamesHardie.
Question: Can Durock be fastened directly to the studs and used as the only wall board to which the tiles will be attached?

Thanks.

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1/2 inch Durrock is for walls---never put anything behind it except studs---I prefer Durrock to Hardibacker--It's what I use--but the hardi is a big seller--so others like it--just my personal preference.
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Thanks Mike - nice to have someone to ask these questions, or to ask for an opinion.

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