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Old 03-31-2012, 07:52 AM   #1
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I'm replacing my kitchen sink and I have to lower the trap. I dry fitted this setup, but it doesn't look right. Will it drain correctly? Is the dishwasher hose to low on this setup?

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I think you're going to have problems with this setup.
The guys here will explain better than I can right now as to why.

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I figured as much. I would imagine the draining water would just follow the hose into the dishwasher.

I suppose I have to open the wall and lower the connection from there.
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I figured as much. I would imagine the draining water would just follow the hose into the dishwasher.
*Bingo* That's what I see happening. There are easier ways to fix this problem though, I believe.

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The dishwasher drain should a a loop that goes up to the underside of the counter. That will keep water from flowing back to the DW. This should be done even after you lower the trap arm in the wall.
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Okay, I see. Haveing the hose looped up above the trap & drain pipe will prevent water from flowing that way.

I think I'm following this.

So do we think I must open the wall and lower the trap also?
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water height in both vertical pipes will want to equalize at the red line. But it will not be able to because the water will flow into the dishwasher line. So water height will eventally equalize at yellow line.
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Thats make sense, thanks for the visual.
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My diagram is a little off...water will equalize slightly above the yellow line...more at the green line. Anyway I dont know how much trouble will be needed to "push" the water up to the trap arm on the next dishcharge from the sink.

I believe the max vertical distance from the underside of the sink to the trap weir is 24". I do not know if there is a max vertical distance the water has to rise out of the trap before going into the trap arm.

Ideally you want the trap arm to be directly after the p-trap. Like my 1st photo below.
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I have in the past adapted a dishwasher tail piece

to fit in the horizontal wast arm from one of the drain baskets. Cut the arm about an inch from the elbow and insert this between the elbow and the wye. You need the tail piece that has the slip fitting on the top. Here is one on Amazon but Lowes or HD has them:
http://www.amazon.com/ABS-Tubular-Di...3202168&sr=8-4

That will allow you to install a normal trap. Not sure if this meets code but it works. You still need to loop the DW drain hose up to the underside of the counter.
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I'll give that a try.

Also, the original setup had a copper connection for the dishwasher. Is this significant?
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Not significant, just somebody using what they had in their junk box.
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The distance after the trap and before the horizontal trap arm is called the TRAP SEAL. Max distance according to UPC 1005.0 is 4 inches.
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I can't get the tail piece around here. Home Depot doesn't carry it... I called two. Must be a Canadian thing? Of course the company that makes them is in the neighbourhood.

I'll keep looking.
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Is there a garbage disposal to the left in the picture??
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