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amakarevic 07-07-2008 03:41 PM

why is this seemingly simple product so ...
 
expensive and can it be used as a floor drain (looks identical albeit advertised as a shower drain) ?

http://www.kitchenandpantry.com//Pro...sp?ItemID=3046

bob22 07-07-2008 04:00 PM

I don't know specifically about your issue but I just renovated my kitchen and installed a new sink and strainer. I bought a new strainer for ~ $20, installed it and one week later, the nut holding it on snapped in two causing a sink leak. I went to big box store and bought the ~ $30 Kohler one; what a difference in construction! It must weigh 2x's the old one and just feels better made. If this is for a shower floor drain, spend the money now, a lot cheaper than trying to replace it later.

RippySkippy 07-08-2008 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by bob22 (Post 136875)
... Kohler one; what a difference in construction! It must weigh 2x's the old one and just feels better made. If this is for a shower floor drain, spend the money now, a lot cheaper than trying to replace it later.

How true. I concur with the Kohler fixtures, I have them though out the house, and wouldn't trade a one of them for anything else. Pricey yes. Will they last my life time...most likely. It's hard to describe but when you 'handle' a quality fixture, others just don't seem as durable.

As for the OP ? on the use as a floor drain...I guess we need additional information, as to the specific application. I also think this is for a tub/shower application.

amakarevic 07-08-2008 11:51 AM

simple floor drain so that mopped water drains through it and i do not have to mop dry. kind of like they have in commercial applications.

majakdragon 07-08-2008 12:30 PM

I don't know about your area but I doubt a 2" drain would be acceptable under Code as a floor drain. Don't forget, a lot of things besides water will be going down this drain including dirt and other small articles. To answer the other part of your question, quality is not cheap.

Alan 07-08-2008 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by RippySkippy (Post 137059)
How true. I concur with the Kohler fixtures, I have them though out the house, and wouldn't trade a one of them for anything else. Pricey yes. Will they last my life time...most likely. It's hard to describe but when you 'handle' a quality fixture, others just don't seem as durable.

As for the OP ? on the use as a floor drain...I guess we need additional information, as to the specific application. I also think this is for a tub/shower application.


That is indeed a shower drain. Specifically a no-caulk shower drain. Made to install on a shower flange similarly to the way a basket strainer is installed on a kitchen sink.

I'm not sure about code on floor drains, but I think they have to have a cleanout, and probably require a vent also. They DO however have to have a trap primer. Do you have one?

Anyway, it's meant to install on a thin fiberglass flange, not onto your subflooring or whatever you're thinking of doing. I don't think it will install onto something that thick.

Termite 07-08-2008 11:24 PM

You need to buy a basic plastic floor drain that incorporates a trap and a cleanout plug/channel. The floor drain can be wet vented, or can be conventionally vented, but it needs to be vented somehow. Most floor drains incorporate some sort of backflow protection if they're installed below grade (actually below the upstream manhole)...That's typically a ping pong type checkball in the drain assembly that keeps turds from coming out of the drain in a backflow situation. Alan is right about the trap primer requirement, but you should check with your local jurisdiction to see if they enforce it in residential applications. I've been an inspector for a long time and I've never required, nor have I seen any other jurisdiction require a trap primer in a residential application.

What you're showing there is for showers, not floor drains. There are a lot of floor drain assemblies on the market. Here's the Sioux Chief version:


http://www.siouxchief.com/images/800P.jpg

And here's the checkball assembly that screws in the above product:
http://www.siouxchief.com/images/8027.jpg


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