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Old 06-24-2013, 02:54 PM   #16
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That plastic washer is just sitting there, its meant for the cover but the bolts are too long for the cover to fit. the stainless steel washer is there.

This home has a recently replaced plywood subfloor, only one problem with it and that is from a severe water leak left untreated for a year
I made the assumption that you know how to put the washers on and how to tighten the nuts down.
You do realize the plastic washer goes under the SS washer? That is not what your picture shows.
BTW- you cut the bolts off after the toilet is tight to the floor

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Old 06-24-2013, 02:59 PM   #17
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Remember, we sometimes have to take a stab in the dark at figuring out a problem. A brief explanation and a few pics are not always much to go on. You stated this was your first time reinstalling a toilet which left many of us guessing as to what went wrong. Now you must be extremely careful tightening the bolts.......you tighten too much and you crack the porcelain ruining your new toilet!
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The floor is fine. It does not need reinforcement, it is new and perfectly sturdy. And we do not need grab bars, for God's sake i am 24 years old, i am perfectly capable of sitting properly on a toilet, as is my future spouse. The floor is vinyl, not laminate. This toilet was installed when i bought the house. We uninstalled it to demo the room, then put it back with a new wax ring.
I asked my dad to take a look at it this weekend. He grabbed ahold the bowl and shook it side to side, and it did not rock or move at all. He said that if the flange was loose, it would have moved when he shook it. I showed him how it moved when you sit on the bowl, and he said that is due to the bolts not being tight enough, and that we needed to tighten them with a wrench, not by hand. Which makes sense. So sometime this week i will go out and use a wrench to tighten the bolts down. The problem has nothing to do with the floor, the floor is perfectly level and not rotten, and its properly supported. The problem is loose bolts, i guess. I will know for sure if it still moves after i tighten down the bolts.
if you tighten the bolt's to tight you will break the ear's of the toilet bowl , the floor flange may be broken ? or cracked? that would give some play on the bowl ? good luck
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Old 06-24-2013, 04:14 PM   #19
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The flange is not cracked or broken, i did make sure of that before we reinstalled the toilet. Thanks for the warning about tightening the bolts too tight.
Eplumber, im not going to be putting the caps on, i dont have any way of modifying the bolts and the caps never stay put anyway. Theyre not necessary.
to they guy who keeps telling me to buy a toilet with structural reinforcement, im not buying a new toilet. We need to get moved into this house in a few months, and this one was free. It works fine, just need to tighten it down. The toilet my future spouse has been using for years at his own house is almost identical to the one we have in our trailer, and it has worked just fine all these years. Thats with two 400lb men using it year round. I think we will be fine
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Old 06-24-2013, 08:42 PM   #20
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I understand that you may be hesitant to purchase a Re-Enforced toilet.

I have posted a link if you need one down the road

http://www.whitehallmfg.com/product....pe%2C+On-Floor


I wish you the best of luck with securing the current toilet.
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Old 06-25-2013, 10:35 AM   #21
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Its not hesitancy. Its flat out refusal. Its not necessary and i will have a normal toilet in my home. That thing looks like something you would see in a nursing home or hospital, not a normal house. Not to mention its a mobile home. The blocks and floor would go before five thousand pounds sat on that toilet
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I have installed toilets on surfaces that were supposedly flat, and still found a low side on every single one of them. If after tightening the bolts you see a gap anywhere around the base, it may help to shim it. I like to use the thin wedge plastic cabinet shims. Just shove it under until it jams and snap it off. It will be covered when you run a bead of white caulk around the base.
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Toilets have cracked from people sitting on them. That porcelain is razor sharp when broken. If you nick your femoral artery you are dead in minutes. The safety of my tenants is something I take very seriously. We do not know you other than your posts, but I will tell you everyone on here is also very serious about other peoples safety. A loose or un stable toilet carries with it many potential problems. Our suggestions are only meant to help you. I realize the frustration of your problem. If I would have known of these stronger toilets it could have saved me a few sleepless nights. As a matter of fact, as soon as my arms heal from days on end of pounding in gutter spikes, I will be moving on to grab bars around toilets and showers.
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I am not trying to insult you Trailer or comment on the size of the occupants.

When someone is obese, there are certain plumbing fixtures that are not designed for use by certain people.

The fact is is that it sounds like a reenforced toilet is what you need.

I am a Plumber and am recommending what is best for you in your situation. I am providing the best service I can to you by recommending a toilet for your needs.

If you think that it looks bad or to expensive is not my concern.

Please understand that your health is the most important thing and I am sticking to my original suggestion for a reenforced cage style toilet.


Please do the best service as you can for you fiancÚ and do not let her be harmed by a flawed toilet.
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what ever happened were you able to secure it (keep it from rocking )
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I havent had time to get to it yet, been busy working on the master bedroom.

David and Mj i know what you are saying, i just dont think its necessary. Difference of opinion. Thanks for your concern. If he is too heavy for a toilet like this, we will go later and get one that is stronger, but i seriously doubt the two of us need something like that. A rental i would understand but not just for us. Thanks.
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Old 06-26-2013, 12:06 PM   #27
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Actually you do need it.


Whether you think you do or not is another story.

I have been doing this for over 20 years, and it is my profession.

You came to this forum looking for advice. That says you don't know what you need to do.

The difference of opinion you are talking about is
That I have over 20 years of experience in this subject.

You have none.

I don't believe that you are informed enough to even give one regarding this matter

I'm done with this topic, you know what you need. If you choose not to take the advice it's your problem


It's your life and your health.

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