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noone 10-07-2012 09:14 PM

What kind of sealant should I use on this type of fitting?
 
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Do I use some pipe dope around these types of plastic seals? What are these types of fittings called? How deep does the pipe have to be in the fitting? In it's current state, the pipe's depth inside just barely clears the plastic ring.

Thanks.....

joecaption 10-07-2012 09:34 PM

Nothing is used, the plastic does the sealing.
Idealy the pipe is slide in untill it hits the stop way inside the fitting.
Somethings wrong if it only slides in a little ways.
Pipe out of round, burr on the end that needs to be filed off.

noone 10-07-2012 09:44 PM

I guess I need to buy a PVC fitting to go on the pvc pipe coming out of the ground that angles toward the drain so that the pipe will be able to go further in. It's not that the bottom drain pipe won't go in all the way, it's just that I have it extended out as far as it will go so it will reach the drain on the bottom of the tub. The bottom drain pipe seems to be about an inch too short.

DannyT 10-07-2012 10:07 PM

that's a slip nut joint. i would move the drain to get the pipe farther in or put a longer piece in so it goes deeper into the tee.

noone 10-07-2012 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DannyT (Post 1026233)
that's a slip nut joint. i would move the drain to get the pipe farther in or put a longer piece in so it goes deeper into the tee.

How do I make that brass drain + pipe longer? It's one piece with the drain welded together to the pipe.

oh'mike 10-08-2012 05:18 AM

Usually there is a tubular 'tail piece ' threaded into the bottom of the T--that will slide inside of the 'trap adapter' sticking up from the floor---

See if that T is threaded inside----the tail piece may have been missing in your kit.

md2lgyk 10-08-2012 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by noone (Post 1026237)
How do I make that brass drain + pipe longer? It's one piece with the drain welded together to the pipe.

They come in different lengths to accommodate different tub depths.

noone 10-08-2012 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by oh'mike (Post 1026332)
Usually there is a tubular 'tail piece ' threaded into the bottom of the T--that will slide inside of the 'trap adapter' sticking up from the floor---

See if that T is threaded inside----the tail piece may have been missing in your kit.

I was talking about the horizontal pipe with the bottom drain welded to it. The piece that the arrow points to. That needs to be longer. How do I make that longer. This piece is too short that came in my kit. I bought the Kohler branded kit cause I thought that's what I needed and it would fit. Are you saying they make similar longer versions of that?

oh'mike 10-08-2012 06:52 AM

That's odd---I've never run into that---those kits come in a couple of sizes---if you are installing a standard sized tub the smaller kit should fit--If you have a whirlpool sometimes a larger set is needed---

Those tubes are 1 1/2" and a pvc or brass extension tube would work---but I think you may have that assembled wrong--or the floor pipe is located farther back than it should be,

Solven weld PVC kits make odd ball installs much easier--however, they don't have a lever operated pop up drain stopper---

noone 10-08-2012 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by oh'mike (Post 1026361)
--or the floor pipe is located farther back than it should be--

Yes this is it. The pipe coming out of the ground is about an inch too far back. I'm hoping there is some kind of fitting I can put on that pipe that will move it forward 1 inch.

oh'mike 10-08-2012 06:57 AM

I'm off to work---is this a standard tub? Have you tried assembling the drain set on the tub temporarily?

I've installed a lot of tubs over the years and never ran into a drain that was to short---something isn't adding up---never saw the flexible overflow before,either.

TheEplumber 10-08-2012 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by noone (Post 1026365)
Yes this is it. The pipe coming out of the ground is about an inch too far back. I'm hoping there is some kind of fitting I can put on that pipe that will move it forward 1 inch.

There's not. You need to dig it up and move it or use a pair 22's and you probably don't have the room for those

Alan 10-08-2012 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by TheEplumber (Post 1026401)
There's not. You need to dig it up and move it or use a pair 22's and you probably don't have the room for those

Either that or get a standard ABS or PVC waste and overflow kit, and you can customize it to fit the pipe coming up from the ground.

noone 10-08-2012 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by TheEplumber (Post 1026401)
There's not. You need to dig it up and move it or use a pair 22's and you probably don't have the room for those

Excuse my ignorance, but I have no idea what 'pair 22's' are....


This is a Kohler drain kit that cost me a $100 bucks, that has a pop-up drain. http://www.us.kohler.com/us/ClearFlo...ngs/427729.htm

Here are my options as I see it:

1. Buy the longer drain pipe from Kohler. They have a 17" version that I can cut down. I'd hate to have to do this for one inch of length.

2. Re-plumb the trap which is going to be a pain cause it's in the ground deep.

3. Buy a standard PVC drain kit. This negates the $100 bucks I spent on the Kohler kit.

TheEplumber 10-08-2012 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by noone (Post 1026433)
Excuse my ignorance, but I have no idea what 'pair 22's' are....


This is a Kohler drain kit that cost me a $100 bucks, that has a pop-up drain. http://www.us.kohler.com/us/ClearFlo...ngs/427729.htm

Here are my options as I see it:

1. Buy the longer drain pipe from Kohler. They have a 17" version that I can cut down. I'd hate to have to do this for one inch of length.

2. Re-plumb the trap which is going to be a pain cause it's in the ground deep.

3. Buy a standard PVC drain kit. This negates the $100 bucks I spent on the Kohler kit.

To clarify my statement- You can use 2- 22* fittings to offset the vertical pipe above the trap and below your tee. This will require digging down to the trap. Once exposed you may find you don't have the height anyways.:(
If you are willing to use a different waste and overflow, go with #3
Another option if you can find it, is to use a 1.5" brass extension tube and solder it onto the drain shoe. This will make it long enough, but good luck finding one. They're some what rare.
Best to go with a PVC/ABS assembly


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