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Old 12-05-2008, 08:12 PM   #1
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What are the extra lead pipes for???


Hello. Yes this is my first post on DIY. I am sure i will have MANY more.
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I purchased this house last year and today i was boared and was looking around downstairs at the piping and i noticed 1 of the lead pipes comming off of the main waste cast iron pipe has approx 4 large holes on it. You can see it in the pic's
So here are my questions.
1. What kind of mess is this?
2. Where do these lead pipes go. ( i tried following them up but i can not see where they end up).
3. I never have water on the floor. and i can stick my fingers in the one with the hole and it is dry?
4. Can you tell me what each pipe is and what it's function is.
5. On a scale of 1-10 how complicated to fix it and what will be needed to fix it?
Thank you very much for all of your help i am eagerly waiting some replys!!
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Old 12-05-2008, 08:24 PM   #2
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I just wanted to comment on your photos.

Wow, looks like you have a leak or two going on there. I've never seen leaded joints like those before and I've worked in some old houses over the years.

Swap it all out for PVC pipe?

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Old 12-05-2008, 08:28 PM   #3
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I just wanted to comment on your photos.

Wow, looks like you have a leak or two going on there. I've never seen leaded joints like those before and I've worked in some old houses over the years.

Swap it all out for PVC pipe?
LOL..if it is leaking i have not seen any water on the concrete floor what so ever and we are down there daily washing clothes. I know what you are saying though by looking at the surrounding wood.
How big of a project to convert it all to PVC?
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Old 12-05-2008, 10:42 PM   #4
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WOW, that is one awesome job of making a drainage header. When I served my apprenticeship, we had to learn how to do this type of work, for repair jobs. It looks like it serves a toilet, sink and tub with one extra fixture also. Replacing it can be done but the hardest part will be the demolition to see where each line goes. That, plus trying to make room for tees in the drop since they don't make any fittings in that configuration. Not sure why the line is dry or why you don't have leaking water around the pipe(s). If you can cut out this "octopus" and leave all the lead burned joints intact, you will have a really neat conversation piece. Not talking about all the piping, just the main part with a few inches of the "arms" still on it.
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You've got some dry rot going on there. Better find out where the leak is and correct it.
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Old 12-06-2008, 07:10 AM   #6
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Just a little water damage to the wood no doubt.

Trace each "arm" to find out what fixture it serves would be a start then you know if it needs to be replaced or eliminated.

...does look like an undersea creature.
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I would stand in the basement and visualize the layout of the house. Of course the pipes go somewhere. With no x-ray vision to see in walls, you'll have to picture where they go. Could of been renovations over the years and maybe some of the pipes were disconnected. You know where your present plumbing is, ie, bathrooms, sinks, kitchen. Could be a disconnected pipe, you get a small back up in main drain and it forces water out of the no longer used disconnected pipe. As a side note, I've been in this house 4 yrs, still haven't found that "3rd" bedroom. Put your detective hat on and have fun.
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Looking at your second picture, I see a tub drain in the back of the pic(beyond the yellow romex). Where is this hooked up to? Is it possible that the house was replumbed/remodeled at some time and the old drains left in?
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Looking at your second picture, I see a tub drain in the back of the pic(beyond the yellow romex). Where is this hooked up to? Is it possible that the house was replumbed/remodled at some time and the old drains left in?
I think that we might be onto something here when talking about the (some) of the pipes not being used because of a remodel.
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Looks like: Toilet,shower,2 sink waste lines. Besides the holes in that second toilet line that Joist is compromised by that hugh notch which is a giant NO NO. Dont see how that passed any inspection.

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