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Fix'n it 02-10-2013 07:25 PM

what am i dealing with here ?
 
i am relocating that piping, up next to the wall. what i am looking for info on = is what do i need to do to connect the new pvc to the metal(cast or steel ?) pipe. i believe that it is somehow soldered together. and i need to get it apart.

on a side question. is buried pvc code ?

TarheelTerp 02-10-2013 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Fix'n it (Post 1114458)
what do i need to do to connect the new pvc to the metal

An adaptor. The requirements will vary by area.

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i need to get it apart.
There are many ways to do that.
Some easier than others and some a bloody mess.

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is buried pvc code ?
When done correctly.

Do you have a permit now?
Do you plan to have the work inspected?

jaydevries 02-10-2013 07:38 PM

you are relocating what is there to be against wall is what i understand. if so can you see the 90 on the old cast iron where it turns to go horizontal

joecaption 02-10-2013 07:42 PM

Going to have to cut out more concrete intil you back to a straight pipe to connect a hubless connector to and redo that old cast clean out with PVC..

747 02-10-2013 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by jaydevries (Post 1114476)
can you see the 90 on the old cast iron where it turns to go horizontal


Exactly your going to take out more concrete. Get to where the pipe goes straight underground. Once you get there. Everything can be replaced with pvc including red pipe. Easiest way to cut would be with the wrap around chain tool . I can't think what this tool is called. You can connect pvc with a boot and clamps to old pipe underground.

joecaption 02-10-2013 07:48 PM

Chair cutter, HD rents them.
http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=...pipe&FORM=IGRE

Fix'n it 02-10-2013 08:09 PM

ok. see the clean out Y, that has to go. the clean out is connected to the main pipe at a 45deg angle. the main pipe goes horizontal under the floor.
iirc, someone said the the pipes are "leaded" together, correct ? if so, could i heat with a oxy/ac torch to loosen/remove it ?

no, i am not getting a permit for this. one reason is that, after digging that hole, i found that i probably(could be thicker under other parts of the floor) don't have as thick a slab as i thought. so it would be somewhat easy to bust it all out. then have a new floor poured. after replacing all of the under slab plumbing. this would give me a 7' ceiling, 6'4" now. i am going to get estimates for having the slab poured.

TheEplumber 02-10-2013 08:57 PM

You'll need to expose the 45 at the stack base. There, you'll find its joined to the main with a lead&oakum joint. I usually try to drill the lead out with a small drill bit or snap the pipe as mentioned earlier. By saving the hub you can use a rubber "doughnut" like the one you already have in the vertical stack.
Once you extend the pvc to the wall- use a long sweep 90 or two 45's to turn vertical- you also need a clean out there.

Javiles 02-10-2013 09:11 PM

SOIL PIPE CUTTER SOIL PIPE CUTTERS SOIL PIPE CUTTERS :wallbash:

TheEplumber 02-10-2013 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Javiles (Post 1114597)
SOIL PIPE CUTTER SOIL PIPE CUTTERS SOIL PIPE CUTTERS :wallbash:

Silly plumber- they're SNAP CUTTERS!! :boxing:

Fix'n it 02-10-2013 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by TheEplumber (Post 1114582)
You'll need to expose the 45 at the stack base.

There, you'll find its joined to the main with a lead&oakum joint. I usually try to drill the lead out with a small drill bit or snap the pipe as mentioned earlier. By saving the hub you can use a rubber "doughnut" like the one you already have in the vertical stack.

Once you extend the pvc to the wall- use a long sweep 90 or two 45's to turn vertical- you also need a clean out there.

it already is, just can't tell in the pic because of the dirt.

drilling, is this a reasonable way to do it ? i mean = does it take forever ?
i don't want to "snap" it. i am afraid that that may break a perhaps already fragile pipe.

thanx for the tips

TarheelTerp 02-10-2013 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Fix'n it (Post 1114614)
it already is, just can't tell in the pic because of the dirt.

drilling, is this a reasonable way to do it ?
i mean = does it take forever ?i don't want to "snap" it.
i am afraid that that may break a perhaps already fragile pipe.

After you cut out 8 or 10 sq feet of concrete and remove the dirt around the pipe so where you'll be making the cut is easy to get to...
and you have a hub/adaptor in your hand to put it all together again with...
then decide how finicky you want to be with the cutting.

Javiles 02-10-2013 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by TheEplumber (Post 1114601)
Silly plumber- they're SNAP CUTTERS!! :boxing:

Google soil pipe cutter and see what happens Google snap cutters same thing comes up Ok so we are both right. :thumbup:

747 02-10-2013 11:12 PM

Yes this is what i meant. To the original poster she will snap clean. In a matter of minutes,

ben's plumbing 02-11-2013 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Javiles (Post 1114669)
Google soil pipe cutter and see what happens Google snap cutters same thing comes up Ok so we are both right. :thumbup:

don't bet on that...cast iron cutter....:thumbup: ben sr:laughing:


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