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Old 01-26-2009, 05:23 PM   #1
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Went to change wax ring , but found this


Toilet was alittle wobbly so i read on here usally new bolts and wax ring will fix it . I got the water off and toilet up , and noticed the iron ? flange was not broke . But i noticed it was very loose . It lifted right off the pipe and the solder ? fell out when i did .
I went up to ace and seen the pvc flanges but decided to come ak what i need to get to fix this . I can't get under to remove any pipe so whats the next thing i can get to fix it ? It seems maybe the pipe is up higher then i would have thought it should of been , so which wax ring kit do i need ?





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Old 01-26-2009, 07:02 PM   #2
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Torque Set Deep Bodied Closet Flange
  • Heavy duty torque set deep bodied cast iron closet flange with compression seal to waste line
  • Ideal for new or retrofit installations
You could use the top which is shorter. BOB

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Old 01-26-2009, 08:06 PM   #3
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Thanks buletbob ,
I was at lowes when you posted ... I recall seeing one similar to that ( not the one i got ) I got a Twist-N-Set and that won't work ( won't fit inside the pipe ) The outside diameter of this pipe is 4 1/4 and the inside is 3 3/4 . Everything i find is for 3 or 4 inch .buletbob do you know what size the one you posted fits ?
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these are made to go around the outside of the pipe. BOB
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A plumbing supply house is your best bet, not a box store. It isn't a specialty part, but it isn't something you'll likely find at Lowes.
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Thanks guys i found one that would work on the outside of the pipe , its a oatey 165 . I still have concerns thou . There is no where to bolt the flange down ( to floor - tile or the board under the tile) also the soil pipe sticks up further then the flange does ... i guess maybe thats why it was wobbly before .
I thought maybe just trimming the pipe lower , but i'd still have the issue of not being able to mount the flange to anything solid .

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timewarp,

the pipe definitle needs to be trimmed but you might wanna check to make sure that a sagging floor isn't the reason it's sticking up first.
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the pipe definitle needs to be trimmed but you might wanna check to make sure that a sagging floor isn't the reason it's sticking up first.

I just checked and thou its not completely flat its does have a slight dip in the front where toilet goes . 1/8 inch so i think iam alright on that .

I did look under the house and notice the soil pipe is supported by blocks .. Iam wondering if i can lower that instead of cutting the pipe , which would be great .

If that is doable , it would leave me trying to fix the area around the soil pipe to bolt the flange down. I measured from the top of the wood to top of tile and it is 1 3/8 thick . thinset or durarock .. something like that thou . Iam thinking screwing pieces from under the house but not sure what to put on top of it , unless i remove some tile and just add wood from the top . Not sure what to do .
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In a case like that, fill in the voids under the subfloor with insulation. I'm guessing the subfloor is missing around the pipe. if so fill the voids with insulation and then mix some mortar or sand mix and install it around the pipe then install your flange and install your bolts through the flange into the freshly poured mix. when dried it should be secured.
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Should i mount the flange ontop of the tile OR make it so its flush with the top of the tile ?
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I wound not have it raised no higher then a 1/4". above the tile floor. I like to use a wax seal with the built in horn.
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I wound not have it raised no higher then a 1/4". above the tile floor. I like to use a wax seal with the built in horn.

Thanks Again Bob ,

The i had picked up a KANT-LEAK Jumbo wax ring kit with flange , says it extends short horn bowls .

Iam having a problem finding replacment 1 x 1 tiles that are the same thickness as mine thou . The thicker ones of course stick up higher and i can see my daughter catching that on her toes . Might have to check out a town or two over at the tile stores there and hope for the best .
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If it realy maters you could steal some from under the vanity if you have one.

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