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Old 08-28-2011, 02:48 PM   #1
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I am looking to install a water softener in my partial basement. The basement is open to the crawlspace on all sides, and all the plumbing/drainage is overhead, but not by much. I don't know if this causes a problem with drainage.

Manuals/installation instructions are saying as long as the drain is within 20ft of the softener In one case it says not more than 36in elevated (I am assuming they mean elevated from the valve). I also have read that the drain is pressured.

However, I've had two plumbers tell me that a water softener needs to be above the drain pipes because it is gravity fed. One said he could also install a pump to avoid that necessity at a price tag of $1600 installation (not incl softener).

I am confused.

Any knowledge or advice?

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Old 08-28-2011, 04:19 PM   #2
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What brand of softener are you talking about?

I know that the fleck valves can push water up to 8' above the discharge point on the valve, and as for distance from the softener, the depends on the size of the drain line, larger can go farther than smaller drain line.

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Old 08-28-2011, 04:31 PM   #3
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Thanks for the reply!

I was looking at the Fleck series. Their 5600 manual is the one that said to limit elevation to 36 in. Don't know if that matters.

Would there be some odd California code that requires the valve to be above the drain pipe?
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I know that most codes wish to see the softener or water treatment discharge to have an air gap of 1" and that to be above the lowest point so that if the black/gray water backs up it does so else where, ie the toilet or bath tub.
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Thanks for the replies.

I just had another plumber over. He was more knowledgeable about softeners and is going to install it in the basement then route the discharge to the washer drain on the floor above. There isn't any problem routing the hose higher than the softener.
The install price is $1,000 less than the first estimate.

It was helpful to have additional insight on this. Thanks again!
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Thanks for the replies.

I just had another plumber over. He was more knowledgeable about softeners and is going to install it in the basement then route the discharge to the washer drain on the floor above. There isn't any problem routing the hose higher than the softener.
The install price is $1,000 less than the first estimate.

It was helpful to have additional insight on this. Thanks again!
How did he end up doing it, and did you have any problems?
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I know that most codes wish to see the softener or water treatment discharge to have an air gap of 1" and that to be above the lowest point so that if the black/gray water backs up it does so else where, ie the toilet or bath tub.

Usually a good Idea unless you like drinking **** water.

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