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Old 01-07-2012, 06:11 AM   #1
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My water meter shows that I am using about 100 ccf of water every week. So I had a plumber come and inspect the water lines inside and outside my house and found no visible signs of water leaking. I then had a leak detection specialist come and pressure test the water lines which held steady at 72 psi for 15 minutes plus no noise of water running in the pipes- has concluded there was no water leaks or water running. The water meter spins intermittently and also did this while the leak detection specialist was at the house. I had the city come by and they claimed to have tested the water meter and say it works ok and put the same water meter back on. My question is what do i do now? If I was blowing through 100 ccf (75000 gallons of water) a week and I had a leak wouldn't my yard be wet by now- it has been about three weeks now that my meter is spinning out of control. I have requested that the city replace the water meter with another one but they say they normally do not do this. I am at my wits end- I don't want to start digging the yard for a phantom leak. Any advice would be greatly appreciated!!!

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Old 01-07-2012, 08:21 AM   #2
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Any advice would be greatly appreciated!!!
Turn off the water at the meter.
Check the number on the meter (take a pic too).

Open the tap at the bath tub and put an empty bucket under the spout.
Then go have lunch.

When you get back from lunch the meter number should be EXACTLY the same...
and the bucket should be dry.

If the bucket isn't dry...
Turn the meter valve back on.
Turn off your main water valve at the house.
Repeat the number thing (go to the library or something this time).
When you get back the number should be EXACTLY the same.

Report back with your results.
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Old 01-07-2012, 10:59 AM   #3
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Simpler test.

Turn off your main water valve for a period of time. Check for movement in the water meter.

Neighbors stealing water from the garden hose spigot?

Water heater temperature & pressure relief valve tripping?

A surreptitious or up to now unknown outside underground tap off of your line serving a shed or, worse, a neighboring house? (a` la party line)
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Do you also happen to have a watersoftner? If so the timer could be stuck in back wash. Total guess.
Do you have one of those water powered sump pumps?
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A water heater T&P valve will release water if the water pressure is too high. See if water is leaking out of that valve...
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75,000 gallons a week Thats three 25,000 gal swimming pools. And the water department doesnt think thats odd?

Where is the meter located?
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100cf=~7,500 gallons
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Turn off the water at the meter.
Check the number on the meter (take a pic too).

Open the tap at the bath tub and put an empty bucket under the spout.
Then go have lunch.

When you get back from lunch the meter number should be EXACTLY the same...
and the bucket should be dry.
That won't work, when you open the bath valve, any pipe loops higher that that valve will drain into the tub

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As several posters have mentioned, water softeners, HWT T&P valves and toilets are likely culprets. Minor cycling of a toilet because of a bad flapper or float can really add up.

Also like several other posters mentioned, turn off the valve at the house, and look for water usage when only the circuit from the meter to the house is charged
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100cf=~7,500 gallons
One ccf is 748 gallons so 100 ccf = 74800 gallons a week- way too much water usage for a leaking toilet- the leak specialist looked for a leaking toilet and when I am in the house toilet works fine- if this much water was really leaking underground I think I would have a mini lake in my back yard by now because it has been going on for 3 weeks= 225000 gallons "leaking." I live in central NC we have clay dirt that does not absorb water well...

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75,000 gallons a week Thats three 25,000 gal swimming pools. And the water department doesnt think thats odd?

Where is the meter located?
The meter is on the other side of the sidewalk from the house- ie between the sidewalk and the street.

Thanks again for any insight.

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As several posters have mentioned, water softeners, HWT T&P valves and toilets are likely culprets. Minor cycling of a toilet because of a bad flapper or float can really add up.

Also like several other posters mentioned, turn off the valve at the house, and look for water usage when only the circuit from the meter to the house is charged
Would these really add to 75000 gallons a week? Plumber and leak detection found nothing-if something this size wouldn't it be obvious where the leak was?
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A leak of 1/4 of an acre-foot per week is too large to explain by toilets, water softeners and TP valves. You leak specialist says you line presumably holds pressure. The city says the meter is OK.

How much does 75,000 gallons of water cost?

Have everybody re-do their work

And double check your math. The city isn't alarmed by that useage?
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Is it an electronic meter? We've come across a couple of those that were faulty. You could turn the inlet valve off, and the outlet valve off on that stupid thing and it would continue reading usage.

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[quote=cdeliopo;815167 I have requested that the city replace the water meter with another one but they say they normally do not do this.

call them again and speak to a supervisor, explain to them "75000 gallons a week isn't normal"

could it be you have a underground leak and the water is just running into draintile or broken sewer tile?


or fill a bunch of buckets/jugs to last a few days then turn off main valve and wait till a neighbor stops by to see if you have a water problem

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