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Old 07-20-2013, 05:57 PM   #31
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Construction sub's have been known to flush or dispose of drywall mud, grout, mortar down the drains during the construction.

If you are not getting any clogs after running cold water at full force, or running hoses down the vent pipes, I would write it off, as a one time issue, and it is gone now.
Hard to write it off as a one time issue because we have been at this house for a few weeks now. (actually, almost a month now).

And did not have this issue until yesterday and them just as quickly all is well, except for the warped hardwood floors in some spots.

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If it happened while you have been there, and that was the first time, someone either flushed something down like a hand towel, wash cloth, had a really hard or good #2, or used a lot of toilet paper, which caused a slight clog, but flushed out.

As for the warped hardwood, that can be fixed. It may go back down over time, may not. You can call ServPro, and they can take a humidity reading of the wood and give you a sheet to give to your contractor, if it is worth them replacing those sections.

Always hate hardwood in Kitchens, Baths, laundry areas. All three should be tiled, or have the faux wood Ceramic tile in them, if you want the wood look, along with a waterproofing membrane under the tile or sub material before tile is laid.
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someone either flushed something down like a hand towel, wash cloth, had a really hard or good #2, or used a lot of toilet paper, which caused a slight clog, but flushed out.
The toilet is going to get clogged in its internal trap. No way even a hefty #2 clogs that 3" pipe...lol
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Did water back up into the sink also? If the 3" was clogged, according to your description, the clog would of had to be in the area pointed to with the green arrow if water did not back up into the sink also.

Furthermore the entire 3" would have to be filled with water before the water stating going vertical
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The toilet is going to get clogged in its internal trap. No way even a hefty #2 clogs that 3" pipe...lol
Want to bet. Been there, done that. Old cast iron is notorious, because over time it grows bumps around the inside, from materials and the corrosion process.

Cannot count the number of times we have had to plunger or snake a 3" line that was clogged on board ship, or in a home that I have owned. Even worse when the line clogs during freezing weather under a manufactured home, due to the water not flowing all the way out, and each time you flush, it leaves a layer of Ice build up, to the point that you cannot do anything, but either wrap the line with a heat tape, or pour hot water down it, to attempt to melt the Ice Cube.
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Hard to write it off as a one time issue because we have been at this house for a few weeks now. (actually, almost a month now).

And did not have this issue until yesterday and them just as quickly all is well, except for the warped hardwood floors in some spots.

Actually, I could write this off as a one timer
If there was something in the 3" line, it would have backed up on previous wash loads.
I doubt there was or is any kind of air lock

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Did water back up into the sink also? If the 3" was clogged, according to your description, the clog would of had to be in the area pointed to with the green arrow if water did not back up into the sink also.

Furthermore the entire 3" would have to be filled with water before the water stating going vertical
A toilet rim is 15" off the floor- so it would overflow before a sink rim @ 34"
I asked earlier if there was a shower or tub in the room because I'm thinking like you- but I never got confirmation.
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Did water back up into the sink also? If the 3" was clogged, according to your description, the clog would of had to be in the area pointed to with the green arrow if water did not back up into the sink also.

Furthermore the entire 3" would have to be filled with water before the water stating going vertical
No water in the sink. Toilet is lower though so was the weakest link fir discharge out of the two. In this case can airlock be ruled out?
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A toilet rim is 15" off the floor- so it would overflow before a sink rim @ 34"
I realized that after posting my message. Good catch
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Actually, I could write this off as a one timer
If there was something in the 3" line, it would have backed up on previous wash loads.
I doubt there was or is any kind of air lock



A toilet rim is 15" off the floor- so it would overflow before a sink rim @ 34"
I asked earlier if there was a shower or tub in the room because I'm thinking like you- but I never got confirmation.
No shower in powder room toilet.
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Want to bet. Been there, done that. Old cast iron is notorious, because over time it grows bumps around the inside, from materials and the corrosion process.
Greg. Look at the photos, Thats PVC.


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Even worse when the line clogs during freezing weather under a manufactured home, due to the water not flowing all the way out, and each time you flush, it leaves a layer of Ice build up,
I may be going out on a limb here but it is mid July. Probably no ice build up.
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Greg. Look at the photos, Thats PVC.




I may be going out on a limb here but it is mid July. Probably no ice build up.
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Sad update today but also a hopefull update. Got water overflow from the toilet AGAIN!

This time, were using one of the showers upstairs at the time. Got a lot more water out.

Toilet was flushing and all was good. I took a shower and all seemed normal.

Then my wife went to clean up the bathroom upstairs and used a little bit of water. We noticed a bit higher levels in the toilet. So I flushed again and it filled almost to the brim and was beginning to recede slowly.

Now the toilet is slowly draining and I had a bright idea. Turn on laundry faucet full speed and see what happens.

I noticed that the water was coming up but I also noticed air bubbles. Took the video also. Hope is it's not too grose. It has a a little toilet paper in it but no yellow or brown

Edit. I have a video of it also but cannot upload here. May be will link on dropbox.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/voyaq23esm4eckz/IMG_0672.mov
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V.... I still highly doubt it's any venting issue.... although it may be drainage problem in that something is repaeditly stoping up your toilet.... could be a backwards Y,,,, if there is any building drain you can't see.... or just some dry cement in your pipe.... maybe camera/scope it.
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V.... I still highly doubt it's any venting issue.... although it may be drainage problem in that something is repaeditly stoping up your toilet.... could be a backwards Y,,,, if there is any building drain you can't see.... or just some dry cement in your pipe.... maybe camera/scope it.
did you see the video? That is a bit of a toilet paper in the toilet. it's not cement. Air bubbles are coming out when another faucet is turned on.

Edit: another update. Toilet is now flushing normally. Plumber did not yet show up and the issue magically resolved. Toilet is now flushing normally. I'm GLAD I took the video.


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