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Old 04-08-2012, 07:59 AM   #16
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ok soldered then

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Old 04-08-2012, 08:05 AM   #17
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What I know is I had a similar problem and the Hvac guy claimed when the dip tube was threaded on and then soldered too much it caused a weak link and over time the thing just dropped off into the tank
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The dip tube in modern water heaters is plastic. I really have no idea what you're talking about.
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Old 04-08-2012, 10:33 AM   #19
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Well then they break all that much easier don't they. I probably don't know much either. Just reporting my experience and how it was fixed. Except mine was a gas heater , but not too sure that it makes much difference
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Sounds like the installer was all over it. First the elements and a new heater. We don't know what trouble shooting he did. I say get him out again and he will take care of the problem. He may have made a mistake, like we all do at times. Just because he is installing for Lowes does not mean he is stupid or doesn't know what he is doing. By the way Lowes installers are not the only plumbers that have poor skills, they are all over the place.
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You have confused me, what do you think was welded? Do you mean soldered?
Id love to learn to tig weld copper,is there a class for this someplace?
I guess Ill just stick with my good ol staybrite 8 untill I learn to weld copper !
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Sounds like the installer was all over it. First the elements and a new heater. We don't know what trouble shooting he did. I say get him out again and he will take care of the problem. He may have made a mistake, like we all do at times. Just because he is installing for Lowes does not mean he is stupid or doesn't know what he is doing. By the way Lowes installers are not the only plumbers that have poor skills, they are all over the place.
Yeah they definately arent the only idiots,but their the only ones I ever see on tv around these parts.
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Old 04-08-2012, 12:51 PM   #23
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I already gave the admission of not knowing all that much, but I was trying to help and simply offered what I know based on my experience. If I got some terminology incorrect then big deal. However, what is there to be gained by public humilation?... Don't worry I'm over it.

Perhaps before you go calling people idiots you may want to edit your own text for grammatical and spelling errors
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Id love to learn to tig weld copper,is there a class for this someplace?
I guess Ill just stick with my good ol staybrite 8 untill I learn to weld copper !
You need a special shielding gas - oxygen rich acetylene

But criticism is so much fun at someone other than your own expense.

We are just teasing, don't take it too personal.

We all have made a gaff or two on this forum.
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I already gave the admission of not knowing all that much, but I was trying to help and simply offered what I know based on my experience. If I got some terminology incorrect then big deal. However, what is there to be gained by public humilation?... Don't worry I'm over it.

Perhaps before you go calling people idiots you may want to edit your own text for grammatical and spelling errors
It was a joke if thats the worst thing you ever do youre better than 99% of the people I know,including me!
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You need a special shielding gas - oxygen rich acetylene

But criticism is so much fun at someone other than your own expense.

We are just teasing, don't take it too personal.

We all have made a gaff or two on this forum.
Ive done a lot of tig welding of stainless/chrome moly and mild steel over the years ,no acetylene invoved in the process.
Youre thinking about brazing,copper is non-ferrous you sweat it with soft solder or silver solder or braze it
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Ive done a lot of tig welding of stainless/chrome moly and mild steel over the years ,no acetylene invoved in the process.
Youre thinking about brazing,copper is non-ferrous you sweat it with soft solder or silver solder or braze it
I hope you know my post about the shielding gas was a total joke? God, I hope oxygen rich acetylene is not a real product.
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Creeper, for what it's worth, yes, a dip tube could provide the situation that the OP described, but having two brand new water heaters, both with bad dip tubes, seems unlikely, so, while you don't want to eliminate that possibilty entirely, the tendancy is to start with any possible common denominators, which, in this case are the plumbing orientation and the power supply.
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If Donald the the Dip(tube installer) was on the heater assembly line hungover one day and messing them up, there's a statistically significant chance that multiple examples of his fine workmanship wound up on the same truck to the same store.
If I were you and still interested in keeping with the big box, I'd suggest to the installer that he get the next one from a different location. Lol

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