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Ineedhelp2009 03-30-2009 08:03 PM

Water in crawlspace possibly septic?
 
You can see the drain pipe going out...and the cap on the other side... the crawl is lower then the top portion of the septic tank... from what i see... but im not a plumber... here are outter and inner pictures.. would you get septic pumped.... house built 01, I bought last year not sure if ever pumped.

This only happens when it rains but water really does not run anywhere around this area.... these pictures are from tonight the last rain was Saturday.

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JDC 03-30-2009 09:28 PM

It is really hard to evaluate a problem like you're experiencing over the internet. Does the moisture have an odor to it? Have you checked the piping for leaks? I'd be sure to check those cleanout plugs...they are notorious for leaking. You say this happens only when it rains? Are you sure you arent getting ground water into your crawlspace? I have seen backups happen when it rains due to leech lines being clogged up, but it usually takes quite awhile before a leech field fails. You stated this system was put in in 01 so unless it was installed incorrectly I wouldnt think it would be that (although I wouldnt COMPLETELY rule it out. Anything is possible) Your best bet is to get someone out there who can evaluate the entire system. Unfortunately septic systems are nearly impossible to diagnose online.

Good luck!

brokenknee 03-31-2009 05:22 PM

Were my daughter lives she is required to have her system pumped at least once every three years. Were I am at I am not required to have it pumped at all.

I would think if it was septic backup you would know by the smell. :icon_confused:

AllanJ 03-31-2009 05:48 PM

Septic tanks need to have the semisolid matter (sludge) pumped every few to several years depending on how heavy the use is. After a regular pumping, do not pump a septic tank again on short notice because you have a backup or flooding problem. THis does not help; you are just wasting your money.

brokenknee 03-31-2009 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AllanJ (Post 253087)
Septic tanks need to have the semisolid matter (sludge) pumped every few to several years depending on how heavy the use is. After a regular pumping, do not pump a septic tank again on short notice because you have a backup or flooding problem. THis does not help; you are just wasting your money.

You are correct, pumping will not correct a problem. I should have stated that in my post. :)

Ineedhelp2009 04-02-2009 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JDC (Post 252786)
It is really hard to evaluate a problem like you're experiencing over the internet. Does the moisture have an odor to it? Have you checked the piping for leaks? I'd be sure to check those cleanout plugs...they are notorious for leaking. You say this happens only when it rains? Are you sure you arent getting ground water into your crawlspace? I have seen backups happen when it rains due to leech lines being clogged up, but it usually takes quite awhile before a leech field fails. You stated this system was put in in 01 so unless it was installed incorrectly I wouldnt think it would be that (although I wouldnt COMPLETELY rule it out. Anything is possible) Your best bet is to get someone out there who can evaluate the entire system. Unfortunately septic systems are nearly impossible to diagnose online.

Good luck!

i agree, (online diag) just a shot. no leaks from the inside plumbing no smell. All the ground around the outer wall is dry. I have opened that cap it's clean.

The only thing i can think of maybe water well below ground level running through. I have several underground springs around my house within 50-100' not sure if that makes a difference... i dug around the footing along the poured wall... the dirt beneath is borderline mud....I know most basements are sealed, and crawls are not required to be... should i did around my wall and seal it off?

Ineedhelp2009 04-02-2009 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brokenknee (Post 253078)
Were my daughter lives she is required to have her system pumped at least once every three years. Were I am at I am not required to have it pumped at all.

I would think if it was septic backup you would know by the smell. :icon_confused:

yea, no smell.... toilet/tub not backing up.

i did open all crawl vents not helping yet...

jomama45 04-03-2009 12:36 PM

I would assume that the water is coming in under the footing due to ground water. It sure looks to me that the entire footing is exposed, not just the frost wall. I would assume (have no idea where your located) they contractor only draintiled the exterior of the crawlspace, hence no visible bleeders. Odds are the ext. tile are higher than the stone in your crawlspace, making the interior the week point for water. Maybe dig down inside the gravel to see where the footing ends. Also, I can't believe a 2 or 3" concrete "slop" floor wasn't at least installed in 2001, much less a VB? Unless there is a VB under the stone we cant see. Either way, It's kind of rediculous (IMO) they didn't pour any kind of floor when the home was built. I've done the retro-pour of crawlspace floors, talk about a pain in the back! :censored:


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