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Old 04-29-2013, 09:43 AM   #1
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Wanting new Water Heater and adding a Softener


I have a current 50 gallon 'tall' tank that's about 12 years old. I'm wanting to solve my issues with hard water and so on. The current tank is in a closet in the laundry room. There's not much space in the closet only really enough to have the tank in.

So I was thinking of buying a tankless water heater and a water softner. They would have to be able to fit in the existing closet.

The real question is do you think this would all fit?

If I hang the tankless heater high enough and add the softner it should right. I guess I'd need to do some measurments.

Also I need some info on things like:

Additional power needed? I have a 30 amp breaker right now.

Would I need to add a vent of some type?

Details are awesome. Thanks ahead of time.

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Old 04-29-2013, 11:14 AM   #2
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Yes, details ARE awesome.....Are you wanting to put in a gas or electric tankless?

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Old 04-29-2013, 11:56 AM   #3
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I have exactly what you're talking about, except that the tankless and softener aren't in the same area of the house. The tankless would have fit on the wall above the softener , but it was much easier and cheaper to vent by installing it on an outside wall elsewhere in the house. My unit is gas (propane). No special power was required; it just plugs into a regular 120V receptacle to power the control circuitry. An electric tankless, of course. would be a whole other story. Because of the additional possible complications, I didn't even consider one of those.
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Guy at home depot bascially said don't do tankless if it's an old house.

My house is really old.

Still thinking about a softner but have no place to put it.
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"Don't do tankless if it's an old house?" Never heard that one. I can tell you that you shouldn't install a tankless without fixing the hard water issue. Some tankless manufacturers will void your warranty if your water is hard.

A word of advice: Never, ever trust the guy at Home Depot. If his lips are moving, he's giving you bum dope. Unless you just asked him where the restroom is.
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First questions that need to be asked, is how many people are there in the household, how many bathrooms? Do you use hot water mixed in the clothes washer, or just cold water when doing clothes. How many loads of dishes do you wash in your dishwasher?

We went with a 50 gallon Richmond (rheem manu) Power Vent Natural Gas water heater, and it will keep up with three people in our house, along with running the dishwasher at the same time. Rarely do we use hot water for clothes washing, but do have a mixer with the hot water, to temper the toilet tank water, because wife got tired of the dreaded sweating tank.

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