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Old 02-10-2011, 07:29 AM   #1
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Using a copper loop for heat trap


I'm changing the location and installing a new electric water heater. The heater is a Reliance, has the male nipples included but I'm not sure if they are the type that have the heat trap capability. I'm planning on making the loop or inverted "C" anyway just in case they don't or they ever fail, to make sure. Are there any basic or minimum specs to go by for the loop. Example how far out of the heater do I come up in inches, over, down and back up. (if that's correct) I'm running new 3/4 copper and in its in an unfinished part of my basement, so I am pretty much unlimited on space both vertical and horizontal.


Also do I need to the this on both sides, hot and cold. I was going to use flex supplies from the nipples on the heater to the loop or "C" (trap part) of the copper.

If anybody could provide a diagram it would be much appreciated
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i was in the trade for many years before retiring,but youre losing me here.
are you trying to make some sort of recirc system?
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i was in the trade for many years before retiring,but youre losing me here.
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Accomplished either with piping or fittings (attached) the heat trap is intended to stop any gravity hot water from traveling up the piping and being wasted.

http://www.bradfordwhite.com/heattraps.asp
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Thanks Jackofall, that's what I'm not sure is in my heater. Like I said, it has the threaded hot and cold stubs (nipples) but I cant seem to tell from my literature that came with the unit if they are heat trap type or not and just as a safeguard I was going to do the loop in the pipes to make sure. Probably overkill but was curious what or if there is a good rule of thumb for the dimensions on the loop. I've seen the loops put into the flex lines, but that seems like kind of asking for a possible kink or issue. I'd rather put the loop in the hard pipe.
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Search heat trap on google, the idea is to get the loop below the inlet and outlet connection on the top of the tank, or just buy the fittings, they are real inexpensive, like 2 (1 hot 1 could) for less than $15.

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Accomplished either with piping or fittings (attached) the heat trap is intended to stop any gravity hot water from traveling up the piping and being wasted.

http://www.bradfordwhite.com/heattraps.asp
most new water heaters ive installed in last few years already have that built into the factory installed pipe nipples
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