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Old 02-05-2013, 09:05 AM   #16
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In the wall is a T. Goes up to a roof vent and down under the floor where it becomes the vent for a sink I the basement. That is where the "up the wall" comment comes from The sink in the basement has its own drain.

Ran the water upstairs and hung out in the basement. Can hear the water draining in both pipes.

Since the pipe in the wall is a true drain up to the roof and the pipe in the floor is a true drain into the stack, could I not just make a bit of a loop with the vent pipe and put a T in over the drain to tie in the sink and dishwasher? That way the vent is coming down over the drain? Kind of like a loop for an island sink ?
If the wall has a tee with a vent through the roof, there's no need for a loop vent.

Probably the reason they did that is because they cut a tee in downstairs for the basement sink that didn't used to be there. They decided that they needed an extra vent for some reason and they ran a makeshift loop vent through the floor.

Again, more visual evidence is needed to properly assist you here.

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In the wall is a T. Goes up to a roof vent and down under the floor where it becomes the vent for a sink I the basement. That is where the "up the wall" comment comes from The sink in the basement has its own drain.

Ran the water upstairs and hung out in the basement. Can hear the water draining in both pipes.

Since the pipe in the wall is a true drain up to the roof and the pipe in the floor is a true drain into the stack, could I not just make a bit of a loop with the vent pipe and put a T in over the drain to tie in the sink and dishwasher? That way the vent is coming down over the drain? Kind of like a loop for an island sink ?
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Sorry for the double post... And the crappy pic. You can see the drain come through the floor and going to the stack. The vent goes along the ceiling to the bathroom where it's just a vent. They did the bathroom and the kitchen at the same time. It's in an addition. The pipe in the wall never went to a drain.
I didn't mean an actual loop vent, just that the way it is now the vent and drain will be at the same level, thought it would be better to get the vent over the actual drain by making a bit of a loop.

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Where does the line marked "vent" go?


Also : Is it just me or do those two lines look too far away from each other below the floor, to be the same two pictured in the original post?
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The vent one continues along the ceiling, takes a turn and becomes the vent for a sink in the basement bathroom. There is a window right above the sink upstairs so I know there is some funky stuff going on behind the wall.
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Is it my eyes or is that drain back pitched..???
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Is it my eyes or is that drain back pitched..???
yes i think you are right... which is ok, cause I could use a little more upstairs. i don't think it's tight to the floor joist so i might be able to push it up.

but yes.... not impressed.
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I suppose after 20 something posts- yu'd like some ideas on how to correct this mess?
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I suppose after 20 something posts- yu'd like some ideas on how to correct this mess?
haha, I THINK we have established that the floor is a drain and the wall is a vent. and that everything in between and possibly underneath is a disaster.

open to any ideas. I mentioned a loop before but just meant trying to get the vent over the drain so the water stops going down there. tried to draw it on my ipad but it just looked horrible.
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Everyone lose interest in this one? Sink and counters supposed to be installed yesterday but the snow storm delayed it all until next Friday. I can plumb around it once its all installed but would prefer to fix this before then. A large cast iron under mount sink is going in and there will be a support under the counter tha twill make things interesting later.
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What I would do to clean it up- 45 & 90 the 2" back and up through the wall (near your rope strap) like the existing vent/drain is. The 2" will be your new drain. Cut in a 2x1.5x1.5" tee about 16" above the floor(make sure its low enough for your new sink). Remove the existing kitchen tee in the vent/drain and tie those two vertical line together as high as possible- should be at 42". Now you have a common vent through the roof- the 2" to the stack and your kitchen is no longer on the basement sink vent and that funky loop thing is gone.
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This is what I have now. All dry fit for the moment. Vent now comes in over the drain, and added the dishwasher discharge on the good side of the trap.
I also fixed the 2" downstairs so it angles in the right direction.
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Not legal.
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The vent goes up and back down again.

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