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homeowner432423 02-22-2012 12:52 PM

tub wont drain. Is the problem up or down?
 
Greetings!

I have a bathtub/shower drain on the 2nd floor of my house that is clogged (only drain with a problem in the whole house). I have replaced the metal overflow, drain and trap with PVC but still no luck. The remaining cast iron metal pipe is horizontal for about a foot or two, and then goes into a tee. I have pushed a 25 foot snake through this pipe but still no flow. The part of the tee that goes down meets up with other drain pipes less than 25 feet from where I am snaking. Also my wife said she thinks she heard me snaking loudest in a room above the bathroom. I can think of only 2 possible situations at this point.

1. my clog is below the tee and my snake is going upwards at the tee.
2. my clog is in the vent and my snake is going downwards.

If my clog is below the tee how do I make my snake go downwards? Is it possible that a clogged vent would not let the tub drain? I have a big cast iron clean out in the basement but the other pipes meet up with the pipe that I snaked before the clean out.

Thanks for your help everyone.

TheEplumber 02-22-2012 02:32 PM

Sounds like your going up the vent instead of down- happens sometimes.
I usually don't have any cutting heads on my smaller cables. This allows me to put a small 45 degree bend in the cable. When inserting the cable, orientate the bend to the tee. It should the drop down the tee to the blockage. There's a good chance the obstruction is right there and forcing the cable to go up the too versus down.

homeowner432423 02-22-2012 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by TheEplumber (Post 860344)
Sounds like your going up the vent instead of down- happens sometimes.
I usually don't have any cutting heads on my smaller cables. This allows me to put a small 45 degree bend in the cable. When inserting the cable, orientate the bend to the tee. It should the drop down the tee to the blockage. There's a good chance the obstruction is right there and forcing the cable to go up the too versus down.

Do you mean you cut off the end of the snake that opens up a little (about the size of a thumb)?

Thanks

jaydevries 02-22-2012 03:43 PM

try a couple times to see if you can get it to go down the other thing is does the vent go straight up and out the roof if so you can run snake down from there i have had to do that before

Javiles 02-22-2012 10:01 PM

You’ll need a drop head on the end of that cable for that situation.

Alan 02-23-2012 09:30 AM

The only thing I see missing from your original post is where you pulled the stopper for the tub and yanked a bunch of hair out of the lower shoe.


:whistling2::wink:

If you did already do that, you need a drop head, as suggested above, and possibly a different size cable depending on what you're using.

homeowner432423 02-23-2012 12:02 PM

No hair, just rust. I'm using a 25 foot long 1/4 inch snake attached to my drill. Last night I got it to go downwards by bending the head a little. It drains but its slow. No slime on the snake, just rust. I guess I just need to do it a few more times.

TheEplumber 02-23-2012 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by homeowner432423 (Post 861142)
No hair, just rust. I'm using a 25 foot long 1/4 inch snake attached to my drill. Last night I got it to go downwards by bending the head a little. It drains but its slow. No slime on the snake, just rust. I guess I just need to do it a few more times.

Please clarify- Did you replace all of the waste and overflow, including the drain shoe and ptrap?

homeowner432423 02-24-2012 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by TheEplumber (Post 861160)
Please clarify- Did you replace all of the waste and overflow, including the drain shoe and ptrap?


yes. All that is left from the original is the tub and a cast iron pipe sticking out horizontally from the wall/ceiling.

TheEplumber 02-24-2012 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by homeowner432423 (Post 861945)
yes. All that is left from the original is the tub and a cast iron pipe sticking out horizontally from the wall/ceiling.

If you have a trip lever tub drain, make sure the linkage is adjusted properly

homeowner432423 02-25-2012 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by TheEplumber (Post 862146)
If you have a trip lever tub drain, make sure the linkage is adjusted properly


The new drain is the lift and turn kind. No linkage to fiddle with.

plummen 02-25-2012 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by homeowner432423 (Post 860356)
Do you mean you cut off the end of the snake that opens up a little (about the size of a thumb)?

Thanks

Thats what I do,then bend a 45 degree bend into the end of the cable :)

TheEplumber 02-25-2012 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by plummen (Post 863251)
Thats what I do,then bend a 45 degree bend into the end of the cable :)

Same here. Nobody at our shop has heads on their small cables

Alan 02-25-2012 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by TheEplumber (Post 863314)
Same here. Nobody at our shop has heads on their small cables

We don't have small cables at our shop because some @#$^#^# keeps using them to snake mainlines.


:whistling2::whistling2::wallbash::icon_rolleyes:

plummen 02-26-2012 02:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Alan (Post 863383)
We don't have small cables at our shop because some @#$^#^# keeps using them to snake mainlines.


:whistling2::whistling2::wallbash::icon_rolleyes:

Now thats funny! :laughing:


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