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grandmeme 06-13-2012 03:04 PM

tub or wall bars for bathtub
 
several yrs ago i had my 50 yr old tub and tile covered with an acrylic liner. at the time no grab bars installed. since then i've had plumbers and other workmen in and always asked if they would put in grab bars and the answer is always 'no i don't know what's in back of the liner'. recently saw tub bars and wondered if that would do....i can install myself. are they safe and how would it impact the liner on the tub. at the moment, i hold onto the bathroom door getting out - not a good idea

TarheelTerp 06-13-2012 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by grandmeme (Post 942623)
... ' i don't know what's in back of the liner'

And no one reading your post here will know either.

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are they safe and how would it impact the liner
They're plenty safe and the tub liner isn't the question.

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recently saw tub bars and wondered if that would do....
i can install myself.
OK... btw, what do you propose attaching them to?

grandmeme 06-13-2012 03:28 PM

tub bars
 
they fit over the tub and pressure holds them...that's why i wondered about the liner. they are not the ones that are screwed into the walls.

TheEplumber 06-13-2012 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by grandmeme (Post 942632)
they fit over the tub and pressure holds them...that's why i wondered about the liner. they are not the ones that are screwed into the walls.

When grab bars for tubs, toilets or any other application are installed you must make sure there is backing inside the wall for the mounting hardware. Sheetrock, tile or tub liners will not do. That's why your plumbers didn't do it.
Imagine yourself falling and all that sudden force when you grab the bar. If its not anchored to studding or backing you'll find yourself on the floor holding a grab bar in your hand.

TarheelTerp 06-13-2012 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by grandmeme (Post 942623)
'no i don't know what's in back of the liner'.

Getting back to this point...
what is behind the tub? on the opposite wall from the bathroom?

Ideally... that'll be a closet.
If so then the reinforcing hardware and such that proper grab bars require can be done from there with a minimum of work (perhaps six small holes) affecting the liner. Some drywall repair but no liner impact.

However... if it's an exterior wall or maybe something like your living room with hoity toity expensive flocked wallpaper you don't want to disturb... well, lets say that a lot more that would affect the liner is needed.

hth

joecaption 06-13-2012 07:18 PM

Find the studs above the enclosure, transfure the the lines down the wall of the enclosure. That's where the rails can be screwed to.

rjniles 06-13-2012 07:19 PM

Usually there is a section of wall above the surround that I can use a stud finder to find the studs. I use a level to drop a line down the wall to identify the studs behind the liner or tile. Drill thru the liner into the stud and secure your grab bars.

oh'mike 06-13-2012 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by grandmeme (Post 942632)
they fit over the tub and pressure holds them...that's why i wondered about the liner. they are not the ones that are screwed into the walls.


You need that tub mounted safety grab---I say, just install it over the tub edge and tighten down the clamps---

If it shortens the life of the overlayed liner--but keeps you from getting hurt--so be it.

Safety first.---Mike---


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