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Old 10-24-2013, 07:15 PM   #1
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So today I went over to do a supposedly simple task for a lady and ended up disabling her only shower. I already knew the tub spout was tight and that it had no cutout for a setscrew from looking at it earlier.

Expecting to find a corroded fitting under the chrome spout, I took a dremel tool and cut it off. There was no pipe! I ended up with a bronze/brass flange flush to the tile with 2 water holes looking towards the tub. It did not want to unscrew using channel lock pliers. I was told at a plumbing store that the it might be a 1-piece assembly with no spout replacement available.

I couldn't find any name of the faucet and it is about 30 years old.

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Never heard of such a thing.
A picture sure would have been nice.

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What gets me, is why they cut it off. I am guessing a not so Handyman.
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We need a picture--you may have a screw on spout---some of those older ones were cast brass or pot metal---and had a threaded opening at the back (wall side)

There is a short nipple used to join that to the threaded pipe behind the wall---
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Haven't figured out how to embed photo yet but did get it loaded as attachment. Sorry about the quality, it came off someone else's phone.

As for taking the Dremel tool to the spout, I expected to find a nipple or copper pipe under it that was corroded into 1 piece.
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Please go back and add your location to your profile. Just go to quick links to edit.
May be an over seas thing.
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Will update profile but not overseas- Ogden, Utah.
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The fitting is inside the wall. Most likely still galvanized pipe in that wall, is why you could not unscrew it from the pipe inside. Basically they do the tile work, then screw back on the spout after they are done.

Can you post a picture of the spout.
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Nate- I took the liberty to move this to the plumbing section.
We have a few really good plumbers- I'm thinking one of them will have a solution.
Personally I've never seen that before....
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Again, can you please post a picture of the spout you took off of the wall. This is one form of older tub spout, that they used to use something in the form like this http://www.plumbingforums.com/forum/...ub-spout-1197/ I would say at this point, if you can get to the plumbing on the backside, then you may be able to cut out the stub from there, stub out for a new fixture, and go that route.

Once you were to cut the Brass plate off with the stub, your will see that there is threads that are over the old Galvanized piping. Of course you can end up opening a larger can of worms, due to the faucets most likely also need to be replaced, since they are beyond their lifespan, along with any galvanized piping.

I bet that sucker still has a older style Drum trap under it. Be looking at getting to know this bathroom very well, while you do the work.
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Came across this http://www.askmehelpdesk.com/plumbin...ut-484212.html http://www.plbg.com/forum/read.php?1,443569 I am going with a "Chicago Style Spout" on this, what the OP has come across.

This is what they look like inside the wall (my old bath, that was completely gutted and redone).
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That should be screwed on to a short nipple---as old as it is,unscrewing it might be difficult without the spout to put a wrench on----
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Expecting to find a corroded fitting under the chrome spout, I took a dremel tool and cut it off.


I ended up with a bronze/brass flange flush to the tile with 2 water holes looking towards the tub.


I couldn't find any name of the faucet and it is about 30 years old.

The tile and tub tell me that is older than thirty years---1960s is more like it---

you had a one piece cast spout with a threaded inlet in the back---now you just have the back and very little to grab in order to unscrew the spout from the nipple----

I have no good suggestion on how to grab the remaining round back---

You might be able to use that dremmel and cut off enough to get two flats that you could get a monkey wrench on----
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What's the wall behind it? Because you may be cutting that drywall soon in order to gain access to the back of that spout.
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that is a very old set up ...it should unscrew... but open access door 1 st to be sure ...if no access I would use small pipe wrench and push down firmly it should break free....ben sr

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