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Old 12-24-2008, 08:37 AM   #1
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Trying to install tub filler in a different way


I'm trying to install tub filler in a different way. Want to have a deck (or floor?) mount on a drop in tub with ceramic tile on the deck. But it must also be a shower. I would like to take a faucet with a diverter and a handheld shower and use rigid copper from the diverter up to a wall mount shower head eliminating the handheld all together.

What problems will I create by doing this?

What is pressure balance? The faucet sales person said I needed a pressure balance faucet? or valve?, but she could not explain it to me.

Are there any other things I should look out for before I select the faucet?

Confusion seems to be a constant state of mind since I began this project.

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pressure loss - which can cause fluctuations in hot/cold water.it is code in N.Y

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Old 12-24-2008, 11:29 AM   #3
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Pressure balance or anti-scald fixtures are being required in more and more States. These fixtures help avoid getting all hot water while showering and are really recommended where children are using the fixtures. She didn't explain it, because she didn't know. Whether you install this type filler or not, will not affect what you want to do. It is simply a safety issue. Check with your local Code office if you want to know if it is a requirement where you live. In my opinion, I would install this type filler.
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This seems like a good idea and will prevent hot water scalding when someone in the house flushes or turns on water in another sink.

This will not affect how hot I can adjust the water, it will just keep the temp where I have set it to start with? That's a different regulator altogether?

Are there any problems I should know about in connecting rigid copper instead of the flex hose that comes with the handheld shower? A water line is a water line whether it's flexible and going a few inches from the handles or rigid and running up a wall, right?

Any other words of wisdom, I am almost finished ripping out the old tile and have all my fixtures out. I am rerouting all my plumbing and going with PVC instead of cast iron for venting and sewage.

How do I connect the PVC to cast iron? Is there an alternative to the rubber boot thing that I have seen other people use? Something a little more rigid with less chance of leakage? I really don't like crawling under my house any more than necessary and I would be worried about a connection that only relied on clamps to keep everything contained.
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Fernco and No-hub connectors are made for this use. When correctly installed and supported (if the piping is hanging from joists) you will have no problem. When changing from cast iron to PVC, there is a difference in the outside diameter of the pipes. Make sure you buy a connector made for these two materials. Going back to your water supply, I have only seen shower valves made with pressure balance/anti-scald devices. You may not have this with a combination tub filler and shower valve. Ask a different worker where you buy your supplies.
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