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Old 08-24-2008, 06:15 PM   #1
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I have a toilet that was running and my Dad suggested replacing the flapper. So, I got a new flapper and when I was taking the old one off the overflow valve broke. I was going to call the plumber, but decided to try to fix it myself. After making a big mess I was finally able to replace the overflow valve, reflow tube, water control assembly, and the flapper.

The problem is the toilet still sounds like it is running?!?! It's the same problem that started the entire mess. Would replacing the handle fix it? I'm unsure where to go from here.

Thanks for any advice!

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Old 08-24-2008, 06:19 PM   #2
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http://www.korky.com/FillValveRepairKit4010PK.html

That's what I got. If I press on the flapper I can get it to stop running, but a few minutes later it starts again.

It's making me crazy.

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Old 08-24-2008, 06:30 PM   #3
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Make sure you have the right flapper and leave some slack in the chain.
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Old 08-24-2008, 06:35 PM   #4
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Make sure you have the right flapper and leave some slack in the chain.
It's the flapper that came with the set? I will try letting more slack, but I'm pretty sure I have enough. This was a problem when I moved in too, is there anything else that might cause it? Maytbe the flapper that came with the set sucks and the one that was on the toilet when I got the house was crappy, too?

If I press on the flapper with my hands it quits for a bit... so I'm pretty sure it's the flapper.
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take a brillo pad and run it around the opening where the flapper goes into at ther bottom of the tank.
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Old 08-24-2008, 07:00 PM   #6
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take a brillo pad and run it around the opening where the flapper goes into at ther bottom of the tank.
alright, I will pick up a brillo pad on the way home from work tomorrow.

Do you think maybe a higher quality flapper? The entire system in the tank is new.

This is frustrating. It took me all afternoon and I'm so damn close!!!
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i had a $80 water bill in the middle of the winter(big time gardener in the summer watering) last year and went right for the flapper...i shut the water off to the tank and sure enought it emptied out(minimal action in the bowl with the water open normally).went with a new flapper and it slowed the draining test,and seemed it had to work its way into the opening before the tank test held when it refilled and held its level.can use a old rag or sponge to see if your clear the seat on the bottom shut the water off under the tank after the last refill before you go out the door to work and when you get home it will give an idea of the rate of water being leaked..the weigh of the water in the tank is the force pushing on the flapper...1 gallon of water what???? is 8.2 lbs i think

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I'm sure it is frustrating after replacing the whole kit and still have a problem. Good advice already about making sure the seal area is clean and allowing the seal to do its job.

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The problem is the toilet still sounds like it is running?!?!
One step at a time. Make sure that you actually do have a leak. You probably do but... Have you tried the food coloring test? Put a few drops in the tank, leave several hours or overnight and see if it is moving down into the bowl.

Since everything is now new, maybe just take the flapper back and see if the store will give you another one.
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Thanks for all the replies.

I don't have any food coloring, but the toilet kit actually came with some balls that do the same thing as the food coloring test. I will try that when I get home tonight.

Also, a few people at work have mentioned there might by sediments around the opening causing the flapper to not seal correctly... I think that's why biggles mentioned the brillo pad. Do you think a dirty tank might also cause some debri? The tank looks pretty nasty, perhaps I should have cleaned it out better... but I guess I have to chalk the entire thing up as a learning process at this point.
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I'm sure you did, but since nobody has asked yet.... did you adjust your fill valve when you put it in?
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I'm sure you did, but since nobody has asked yet.... did you adjust your fill valve when you put it in?
I think so. It shuts off when the water reaches a certain point.

I'm hoping giving it a good scrubbing will clear some debri. That seems to be the most likely culprit based on everyone I have talked to.

Thanks for the replies!
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I tried the food color test and it leaked into the bowl. If I push the flapper into the opening it stops running. Did I not tighten something right? Is it worth trying another flapper? I just find it hard to believe three flappers have failed.

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