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Old 02-08-2014, 07:16 PM   #1
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Iím hoping this is an easy question. I have 2 bathrooms that the water supply line valve to the toilets is really rusting and looks kind of trashy. The valve itself and the flange covering the hole in the tile. I have 2 young boys that are probably part of the issue J

Anyway, do they make stainless steel valves and stainless steel flanges I can use to replace these? Maybe a silly question, but Iím sure Iím not the only person with a nice looking bathroom only to have rusty valves.

If they do make them, any idea where I can order a couple?

Also, do they make stainless steel toilet bolts and nuts? The 2 that are used to secure it to the floor? Same problem, lots of rust.

Thanks for the help!!
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You can buy new brass closet bolts in any hardware store, Lowes HD.
If someone had of installed the plastic caps on the bolts they may not have rusted off.
There so rusted now your most likely going to have to cut them off. The toilet needs to be remove to change the bolts so your going to need a new wax ring. Most often the new bolts come with the wax ring.
There also going to have the eschuntion and valves.
problem is someone use a compression stop (there called stops, not valves).
Your going to have to shut off the main water supply, flush the toilet and cut that copper tubing with a mini tubing cutter to get the eschuntion off.

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Yeah any hardware store will have the shutoff valves. EIther a local hardware store or any on line hardware store
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but I’m sure I’m not the only person with a nice looking bathroom only to have rusty valves.!
Yup...after we had the new tile floor installed I had to get a new shutoff and escutcheon
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They also sell a sleeve you can slide over the copper to hid it.
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Damn...I see a little oxidation starting to happen on my copper. Gonna have to emery cloth that
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Thanks for the replies guys! I learned a new term today "escutcheon" I googled it and found I can get them in polished nickle and stainless so that's cool. As far as the shut off valve... I know I can get a chrome steel one but would like to know if they make a complete stainless one that won't pit or rust at all? I know I'm going to have to cut the copper pipe to replace everything. Thanks again!!
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Damn...I see a little oxidation starting to happen on my copper. Gonna have to emery cloth that
or you could do it this way ..shut off water at main...cut copper tubing about 1 1/2 off floor install escutcheon reinstall valve ..no copper pipe showing nut on valve fit tight to escutcheon....that how we do it here...ben sr
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Never seen SS stops.
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I checked out the value or shut off selection at my local big box yesterday. Lots of options. Any particular type recommended over others? Since they don't make these in SS, do they make them in brass or anything else other than chrome steel that pits and rusts? I didn't see anything. I've also never installed a compression fit valve so need to learn how to do that as well.
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I'd just use one like you already have, It's a 1/4 turn valve for faster shutoff and less leaks.
Just make sure pipe is debured where it's cut, slip on the eschuntion, the nut, the brass sleeve then the valve.
Hand tighten the nut, making sure the valves facing the right way and use two wrenches to tighten the nut. The brass ring gets compressed into the copper pipe to hold it on.
Only needs about a half turn to tighten.
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I agree with the 1/4 turn shut offs. Thats whats in the picture I posted
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Thanks. I'm assuming the nut and brass sleeve are both part of the valve when I buy that correct? Or do I need to pick these up them separately? Obviously, I've never installed a compression pipe fitting. Thanks!
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Thanks. I'm assuming the nut and brass sleeve are both part of the valve when I buy that correct? Or do I need to pick these up them separately? Obviously, I've never installed a compression pipe fitting. Thanks!
Yes...the compression nut and the ferrule will come with the valve.
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Yes...the compression nut and the ferrule will come with the valve.

Thanks. I could also try to just get the old nut and sleeve off the pipe without cutting it correct? If I do need to cut it, I can just use a file to deburr it then right? Thanks!

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