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Old 09-17-2013, 04:55 PM   #1
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Toilet Superflow Attempt Failure


My toilet wasn't able to handle the loads I was delivering to it, so I figured it was a water pressure issue. I opened up the tank, and that's when I clearly saw the problem. There's a bucket in place, surrounding the flush mechanism around the exit hole. You would flush, but it only allows a certain amount of water through.


I figured if I just cut that bucket up, allowing more water, then it would all be fine and dandy. What could go wrong, right?



Well, the problem is, now a lot more water flows in, and that rubber flush valve wont automatically close because of all the water coming in, which requires me to manually turn off the water supply.
I guess that plastic bucket was there for a reason.

So my question is, how bad is this situation? I don't know how to replace that bucket since it's attached to the bottom of the tank. What would you guys do?

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I would cut the rest of the bucket out.

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What do you mean the flapper won't automatically close? Normally, when you flush, the flapper raises and floats on top of the water. When the water level drops, the flapper drops onto the seat. Seems rather foolproof. That rather looks like a standard flapper.

Sometimes the chain can get under the flapper.
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I could always use tape to patch up those two holes. Probably wouldn't last long though.
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What do you mean the flapper won't automatically close? Normally, when you flush, the flapper raises and floats on top of the water. When the water level drops, the flapper drops onto the seat. Seems rather foolproof. That rather looks like a standard flapper.

Sometimes the chain can get under the flapper.
I should have said, the flapper doesn't automatically close soon enough. The amount of water that flows into the toilet is too much, threatening to overflow, and the flapper stays open and lets it all flow down.

I could always get a half-gallon, fill it with water, put in the tank, and that would reduce the volume of water allowed to flow...
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The amount of water that flows into the toilet is too much
You can adjust the water level in the tank. The float will be adjustable. You can likely find a You-Tube video that shows water level adjustment on your style of fill valve.
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I wouldn't screw with it. I would just rip it out and replace with a new toilet. Preferably a Toto.
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Get a Fluidmaster universal flapper. The flapper is rotated to adjust the duration of the flush.
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Honestly I would take that first generation 1.6 gallon flush gerber toilet out. Open the window and see how far you can toss it and go purchase a name brand 1.6 gallon toilet. I use the American standard right height it works very well. Toilet Plunger collects dust good also now.
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Replace the complete flush valve, the reason the flappers not setting is to much pressure going in to the over flow tube, pull back the black refill tube and try and slow down the flow to it.
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...rip it out and replace with a new toilet. Preferably a Toto.
or a Ferguson

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To me, it seems silly to replace a toilet that can be repaired. I have done what you have attempted several times to make the toilet flush better. If memory serves, once I cut up the "bucket" like you did. One big gash on one side and the flapper did not function correctly. The water flowing in from one side,I think,affects the flapper closing properly. I would trim a lot more of the bucket away, and if you need to, adjust the fill valve so there is less water in the tank. Good Luck!
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I should have said, the flapper doesn't automatically close soon enough. The amount of water that flows into the toilet is too much, threatening to overflow, and the flapper stays open and lets it all flow down.

I could always get a half-gallon, fill it with water, put in the tank, and that would reduce the volume of water allowed to flow...
The bowl should be able to keep up with the flow of water coming out of the tank.
If its not then you may have a blockage in the trap way of the toilet and or in the drain line under the toilet.
I would start with a toilet auger and if that doesn't work , you may need to remove the toilet and have the drain cabled out.
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Replace that POS and don't look back. You can't "repair" a defective design.
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If you enjoy using a plunger then keep it. I had 2 I now have 0. That should be enough said.

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