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VickiTun1 01-30-2009 03:29 PM

toilet seals
Just replaced wax seal on leaky toilet. Still leaks. Everything is level, see no cracks on toilet (cld be in the trap), tried to blame the grandkids, but it leaked before they visited. Flange is about 1/2 inch above the floor level, we have read about hammering it down using a piece of wood and are going to try that. We are old, Husband doesn't want to pay plumber of course, nor go under the house. If I could just get him to go away for a while, I'd hire me a plumber. Help Vicki and Dick

John McCabe 01-31-2009 12:09 AM

I would take a small sledgehammer and beat down on it till it drops. You are going to have to hit it really hard to make it go down. then replace the wax ring.

Nestor_Kelebay 01-31-2009 02:01 AM


Originally Posted by John McCabe (Post 222302)
I would take a small sledgehammer and beat down on it till it drops. You are going to have to hit it really hard to make it go down. then replace the wax ring.

What do you think about the idea of tracing the toilet's "footprint" onto a piece of 1/4 inch plywood, sticking that plywood down to the floor with double sided carpet tape and installing the toilet over that plywood? That way you raise the toilet rather than lowering the flange.

How would hammering on the toilet flange accomplish anything other than wrecking the toilet flange? That is, in what way would the toilet flange "drop" as you describe.
I'd be concerned that you're as likely to damage the subfloor supporting the toilet flange before it "drops", and any such "dropping" may be irrepairable without pulling up the flooring, underlayment and replacing some floor boards with plywood. And, as luck would have it, those floor boards may go under the walls, and replacing them may simply not be feasible without cutting a large hole in the ceiling below to get good access to them.

I don't think it's ever appropriate to hammer on a toilet floor flange. Or, at least, this is the very first time the idea has come up in my experience, and I simply can't see the benefit in doing that. I can see a lot of problems resulting from doing that, tho.

DangerMouse 01-31-2009 05:09 AM

i have to go with nestor here.... what if the toilet is on a second floor? and it's gone rotten underneath? hitting it with a slegehammer would send the OP to the next floor below! and what if it's a toilet in a basement? with the hole in concrete? smash the concrete?
i've seen toilets installed numerous ways, but never with a plywood ring around the bottom... sorry nestor, but how do you clean it? *YUK*
so, what is the flange made of? iron? PVC?
perhaps shortening the flange would be a smarter idea? although, i'd certainly verify the flange seal is the culprit first! ("see no cracks on toilet, cld be in the trap") if i were you, i'd ask around to some/any handy relatives or friends you may know to take a close look at it before you proceed. for us to assist you here, i believe we will need some more details from you, Vicki. location, age, and floor level of toilet? perhaps pictures would help as well. i fixed a toilet problem once that the guy had tried 3 times with wax rings to stop a leak that was coming from the seal between tank and bowl......


John McCabe 01-31-2009 12:20 PM

Hammering the flange down will fix the problem. There is movement in those lines. You have to beat really hard but it will go down.

Why would anyone want to build up a toielt with wood? Not a good idea and the fix is a sledgehammer. Besides, if you read, they already mentioned they was going to do this.

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