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Old 02-20-2012, 01:29 AM   #1
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There is a constant leak into the toilet bowl - so I opened the tank lid and the water level slowly lowers - I pressed down on the flapper and it stopped the leaking, so I guess that seal is worn out which means I should probably replace the flapper.

There's also a spewing sound from around the float - there is a really rusty screw there on the top of the valve connected to the float, and I tightened it which made the sound stop . . . but then after about 2 minutes or so, the sound returns.

The tank doesn't appear to fill back up with enough water, and when I push the float down, the water fills up to the top of the overflow tube, the float is about halfway under water, and the sound stops.

When a toilet is working, how much water should be in the tank and should the float be completely on top of the water or partially submerged?

I'm thinking that I need to replace both the flapper and the float - do you agree?

I've never done this before, is it fairly easy? Is there anything I should know about the replacement, any adjustments, etc.?

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Yes, get a new flapper and fill valve.
Flapper is simple
Fill valve - you need to shut off water to toilet, disconnect water line, empty tank and replace valve. That's that tall thing on the left where the water comes from.
After water line is disconnected, unscrew nut from underside of tank.

There should be a mark on the inside of tank that says something like "water line" or "fill line".
That's how much water it should fill to.

And the float will be partly submerged. Maybe 10 - 20%.

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Fluidmaster parts, available at home/hardware stores. Easy to install following directions. Fits most toilets, but lowboy one piece toilets may need special parts.
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If you have a shop vac, after shutting off the water suck the remainder out of the tank, then remove your supply. Its easier than putting a round bowl against a flat wall... and saves mopping up.Also works great if you remove a toilet in future. Remember to clean the surface the flapper seats against. Grit and water scale can build up there and prevent a good seal.
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Yes, get a new flapper and fill valve.
Flapper is simple
Fill valve - you need to shut off water to toilet, disconnect water line, empty tank and replace valve. That's that tall thing on the left where the water comes from.
After water line is disconnected, unscrew nut from underside of tank.

There should be a mark on the inside of tank that says something like "water line" or "fill line".
That's how much water it should fill to.

And the float will be partly submerged. Maybe 10 - 20%.


Oh ok, so I'll replace the entire fill valve - I thought it would just be the top portion that moves the float.

Thanks for the info!
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Fluidmaster parts, available at home/hardware stores. Easy to install following directions. Fits most toilets, but lowboy one piece toilets may need special parts.
Could you look at this link from Walmart and tell me if this is what I need?

And would you explain why this doesn't have the ball float on it?

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Fluidmaste...r-Kit/15788362

Thanks!

I went back to WM site and found this one: Do you think this would be even better than the Fluidmaster?

http://www.walmart.com/ip/HydroWorks...ndingMethod=rr

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Remember to clean the surface the flapper seats against. Grit and water scale can build up there and prevent a good seal.
Yes, thanks, I thought about that.
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Could you look at this link from Walmart and tell me if this is what I need?

And would you explain why this doesn't have the ball float on it?

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Fluidmaste...r-Kit/15788362

Thanks!

I went back to WM site and found this one: Do you think this would be even better than the Fluidmaster?

http://www.walmart.com/ip/HydroWorks...ndingMethod=rr
The black plastic drum is the float
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In older toilets.
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Yes, that is the 400 valve/float. But i prefer the adjustable flapper valve, just because it is adjustable. The hardest part of installing a flapper valve is getting the chain the correct length. It should have just a slight bit of slack in it.

The green version is probably a knock off. Get the Fluidmaster. Many toilet manufacturers use them in their products.
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No the drum that slides up and down the fluid master in that link
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Ok, thanks for all the feedback -

I bought the Fluidmaster set and the guy told me it's fairly straightforward but cautioned me about being careful not to break the white tube that runs over to it inside the tank . . . he said it's easy to break and would probably require a plumber, so I'm kind of nervous about that, but I'm going to try and tackle this here in a little bit . . . yikes.
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