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Old 05-06-2013, 06:25 AM   #16
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javiles, thanks. When I was property manager I learned how to do a lot of repairs for when my maintenance person was on vacation.

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Had to share this Kohler review which made me laugh.


""This toilet works so well, my neighbor came over with his 85 lb dog , had to use the bathroom and brought his dog in with him. I heard him flush the toilet. When he came out, his dog was gone. Poor Fluffy""
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if you home has cast iron 1.6 1.28 is usually not be enough water to get it to its final destination, 90% of our main line clogs are toilet related. Thanks water conservations act.
That's interesting..

I figured if the crap made it out of the toilet, it was gone.. But your saying its not enough water to get it down the pipe and to the city sewer?
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That's interesting..

I figured if the crap made it out of the toilet, it was gone.. But your saying its not enough water to get it down the pipe and to the city sewer?
Waste lines are sloped at 1/4" per foot- sometimes at 1/8"/ft. This was great when toilets flushed 3 gal. Then the conservationists came along and said 1.6 toilets are now the law of the land. So you've cut the water volume in nearly half- but the pipe is still nearly flat.
Now you have the 1.28 or duel flush toilet- toilet manufacturers are improving the flushing capabilities but the plumbing design has not changed in a long time.
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I would think the wash machine would get it out to the main.
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Here's 35 pages of real American Standard Champion reviews. Start here: http://www.terrylove.com/forums/show...hampion+review
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Terry Love is bought and paid for by Toto. I have the champion 4. No plunger need it doesn't leak. Its a great toilet. Toto did have the corner on the market. Not anymore. Not to mention Toto toilets are EXPENSIVE.

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Probably the most important attribute for avoiding clogs is a fully glazed trap of larger diameter than 2".
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The early american standard champion used a flush tower instead of a flapper. Many of them had problems with the seal on the tower leaking and the tower emitted a somewhat loud thunk as it closed each time the toilet flushed. That said; mine is 10 years old and I have not had a single problem with it. While the clunk is a little annoying in the middle of the night, it flushes extremely well and it does so every time. It flushes even better than the toilet with pressure assist flush in my second bath and it is by far quieter. The pressure flush is very powerful (and very LOUD!), but the bowl has a small trap opening and it still clogs easily.

The new champion 4's use a more common style of flapper, just way over-sized. They have a 2-3/8 trapway and a 4 inch flapper valve, pretty much any toilet with those kind of specs is going to flush extremely well. Couple years ago I put 3 of these in a friends new house and one in his shop and he is extremely happy with them. You could literally throw your plunger away, I can't remember ever having a single clog in the entire 10 years since it was installed.
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I put 2 Toto Drake duel flush in a church a few months ago. It's an old building with bad water pressure. Bathrooms are small with one toilet each - close to 150 people. Their 3 gpf toilets were clogging and slow to fill- couldn't keep up with the rush hour traffic after services. Haven't received a single complaint since- the plunger has been retired

Another good toilet is made by Vortens- wholesale only
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To the original poster. If your going to buy a Toto. Get a drake gmax flush 1.6 gallon. I"m not sure if they still make the 1.6 it might now be 1.28. I would expect you to pay 300 plus.
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I highly recommend American Standard Champion toilets as well.
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Thanks water conservations act.
More like thanks to the plumbers that did a poor job installing the lines.

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