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08-11-2012, 10:28 AM
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Toilet is not flush to floor
hi guys, i need a solution to wee problem...
I have just installed a toilet and it does not touch the floor at all...
The floor is not level. I have shimmed the toilet level at the front. Is this toilet going to leak? any advice will help!
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08-11-2012, 10:33 AM
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Toilet is not flush to floor
here is a photo of the toilet.... thanks for your advice!
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08-11-2012, 10:42 AM
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Toilet is not flush to floor
toilet does not need to be level as much as does not rock.
1 did you put your weight on toilet to smash wax ring down?
2 are you sure the horn under toilet bowl went inside of floor flange
3 was floor flange against the floor
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be careful my advice only comes from general knowledge i know about the 4 rules it takes to plumb and they are
1 poop needs to flow down hill. 2 hot on left cold on right
3 i get a pay check on Mondays 4 do not chew finger nails at or after work.
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08-11-2012, 12:54 PM
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Toilet is not flush to floor
hi Jay,
1. i have put my 175lbs of weight on the toilet to smash the wax ring.
2. Im not "sure" if the horn went into the pipe, however I am assuming it has is there is about 1 cm space between the toilet and the tile floor.
3. Floor flange was set to be about 1 cm off the tile floor.
I worried if I miss with this too much the wax ring seal will break. Do you think I need to redo the install?
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08-11-2012, 01:07 PM
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Toilet is not flush to floor
Is your flange on top of finished floor or flush with finished floor?
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08-11-2012, 01:08 PM
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Toilet is not flush to floor
The flange is above the finished floor approx 1/4" or 1 cm
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08-11-2012, 01:10 PM
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Toilet is not flush to floor
are you using a reinforced wax ring.
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be careful my advice only comes from general knowledge i know about the 4 rules it takes to plumb and they are
1 poop needs to flow down hill. 2 hot on left cold on right
3 i get a pay check on Mondays 4 do not chew finger nails at or after work.
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08-11-2012, 01:13 PM
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Toilet is not flush to floor
I have used the wax ring that came with Cadet 3 FloWise Round Front Toilet. it has a plastic funnel in the centre that sits in the effluent pipe
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08-11-2012, 01:15 PM
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Toilet is not flush to floor
huh i would get new wax ring with horn pull toilet and see why it is not going down
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be careful my advice only comes from general knowledge i know about the 4 rules it takes to plumb and they are
1 poop needs to flow down hill. 2 hot on left cold on right
3 i get a pay check on Mondays 4 do not chew finger nails at or after work.
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08-11-2012, 01:16 PM
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Toilet is not flush to floor
I hate those plastic no-seep bull$^#^
I'd say if your toilet isn't sitting down to the floor easily, it's time to pull it off and take some measurements.
Diameter of the horn compared to the diameter of the opening in the flange (repair flange possibly?)
Distance from base of toilet to the surface where the wax seal makes contact underneath the toilet. (possibly too shallow for a flange mounted on top of finished floor)
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08-11-2012, 04:28 PM
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Toilet is not flush to floor
i have removed the toilet and took all of the wax off. I dry fit the toilet without the wax ring and it fit flush. I then took the toilet off and just put the horn from the wax ring on the flange and found that the wax ring is too large. the flange opening measures approx. 2 3/4" diameter. do they make wax rings smaller then 3" I haven't found any?
Any thoughts on this?
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08-11-2012, 04:55 PM
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Toilet is not flush to floor
Sounds like a high flange and a reinforced ring. (Has a foam core)
Get a plain ,all wax ,ring and you should be fine.
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08-11-2012, 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by shorteared
i have removed the toilet and took all of the wax off. I dry fit the toilet without the wax ring and it fit flush. I then took the toilet off and just put the horn from the wax ring on the flange and found that the wax ring is too large. the flange opening measures approx. 2 3/4" diameter. do they make wax rings smaller then 3" I haven't found any?
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I'm not asking about the diameter of the wax ring.. I'm asking about the horn on the toilet outlet. Measure it. I bet it's not even going into the flange. The next step is why do you only have a 2-3/4" opening in your flange. It should be 3"
You should remedy this, and the toilet will probably sit flat to the floor.
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08-11-2012, 06:46 PM
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08-11-2012, 06:48 PM
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Toilet is not flush to floor
should i be worried about a ring that does not have a plastic horn/funnel in the middle? To me it seems silly not to have the horn/funnel as that would assure the effluent flows into the pipe.
I re-measured the small end of the plastic funnel or horn and it is the same size as the discharge pipe in the floor. Should the horn be smaller then the pipe or are the measurements supposed to be the same size (small end of horn/funnel and top of effluent pipe)?
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