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Old 04-25-2012, 03:18 PM   #16
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Thanks for that. It made me (almost) nostalgic for the old days when men were men and plastic hadn't been invented. That's the kind of effort I was afraid might be needed - and way beyond my skills, tools, etc. I bet you feel like you made a difference after a job done that way!



I think, on the toilet in the picture, a sheet of white plastic as a shim will be more my speed - cut to fit in all the right places. Plastic something like what danpik suggested, if I can find it locally.

I think you're selling yourself short.
Take drill bit to the lead joint- drill out enough lead to free up the flange and remove it. Buy a new flange similar to the style hammerlane posted. Grind or snap off the excess old pipe and push the new flange on- secure it to the floor. It's not that tough and you won't be trying to blend in a piece of plastic or plywood that you'll know is there every time nature calls

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Yes that would be the ideal set up in perfect world.

I disagree. I did mine with the bottom edge of the flange on top of the finished tile floor. No problems. No rocking toilet. No leaks.
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I disagree. I did mine with the bottom edge of the flange on top of the finished tile floor. No problems. No rocking toilet. No leaks.
Look closely. You have a different kind of flange.
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I think you're selling yourself short.
Take drill bit to the lead joint- drill out enough lead to free up the flange and remove it. Buy a new flange similar to the style hammerlane posted. Grind or snap off the excess old pipe and push the new flange on- secure it to the floor. It's not that tough and you won't be trying to blend in a piece of plastic or plywood that you'll know is there every time nature calls
I agree that fixing the pipe/flange will give the best result. Shimming is not as attractive - finished-product-wise.

I see three options, in my case, for doing the work via the flange and pipe:

1) I can imagine drilling out the lead, pulling it and the oakum out and getting the old flange up and off - by myself.

Grinding or cutting off an inch from the top of the cast iron pipe is a different matter. I've seen videos and that looks like a job for a pro.

Then, just put in a new flange similar to the style hammerlane posted.

2) How about just leaving the pipe as is, lowering the old flange to the floor and putting new oakum and lead in? Again, letting a pro do this part.

3) Same as 2 but I use a plastic flange with rubber seals that can be placed around the outside of the old pipe - instead of going down the inside.

2 and 3 would leave the pipe itself sticking up an inch or so too high, but the rest of the stuff would be resting on the floor.


1 works for sure. Would 2 or 3 work? (I think I hear no and no for 2 and 3. Why?)

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Look closely. You have a different kind of flange.
A different kind of flange as compared to what. My point was that the bottom edge of my flange ended up being on the finished tile floor. Like below.

I guess to each his own.
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My point was that the bottom edge of my flange ended up being on the finished tile floor.
Some flanges are thicker than others.
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So, these different types and thicknesses of flange...do they have specific names so that I can find the one I need. I am installing a toilet where the concrete *is* the finish floor. The flange I bought has extra plastic (reinforcement, I assume) so I can't even make it sit flush like picture #1 without removing concrete. (The concrete is directly against the temporary, capped pipe; it seems this is where something *should* have been done different; live and learn.)
An attempted sketch of the flange I have is below. Do they exist without this reinforcement or do I have to start grinding?
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