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econdave 07-06-2008 06:02 AM

toilet flange
 
how to you get the flange off the pipe? PVC

Termite 07-06-2008 07:03 AM

Assuming you're needing to replace the flange for some reason?

If it is a PVC flange and PVC pipe, it is a glued joint and the only way to get it off is to cut it off from the underside. You can use a handsaw or a sawzall with a fine blade. In order to install a new one you'll need to replace a small section of pipe to make up the length you cut off.

econdave 07-06-2008 09:04 AM

it is on the second floor I cant access it without ripping up floor, the flange was broke where the bolts hold the toilet to floor.

Termite 07-06-2008 09:39 AM

I got bad news for you Dave. You're going to have to cut an access hole in the first floor ceiling to get at it.

I'm not aware of any sort of product that could overlay the existing flange as a repair, but you might (big maybe) be able to get by with a brass floor flange set right on top of the broken flange. It would have to be secured really well. You'd need to use a wax ring with a black rubber extension in it to go down into the plastic flange.

Hopefully a plumber will chime in and can let you know if there's a decent chance that will work, or another product.

I really wish they'd never came up with PVC floor flanges. I think they're junk.

econdave 07-06-2008 10:29 AM

things just went from bad to worse, I broke the sewer pipe that connects to the flange. What a nightmare this is going to be because the pipe is also connected to my bathroom sink. Are we talking floor tear out?

majakdragon 07-06-2008 11:26 AM

Yipes, things went from bad to worse. Wish I had logged in earlier since I could have saved you with just the flange problem. Most Home Centers carry what is called a "Super flange" that you just place over the broken flange and screw down to the floor. Now you are talking removing whatever it takes to access the pipe for replacement.

econdave 07-06-2008 11:36 AM

thanks, wished i did a little more research before breaking S@#t. What a mess I have now.

Termite 07-06-2008 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by majakdragon (Post 136508)
Yipes, things went from bad to worse. Wish I had logged in earlier since I could have saved you with just the flange problem. Most Home Centers carry what is called a "Super flange" that you just place over the broken flange and screw down to the floor. Now you are talking removing whatever it takes to access the pipe for replacement.

Just saw that on the other thread. Heck of a handy product. I've never seen one before.

Econdave, I don't know where you broke the pipe, but if it is possible to access the plumbing by cutting a hole in the ceiling below, that's the way to go. Removal of the floor to access plumbing could get incredibly involved and rather expensive. If you cut out sheetrock beneath, you can replace it and only have to worry about making it look good, whereas cutting out the floor would require taking out enough floor to replace the floor sheathing from joist to joist.

econdave 07-06-2008 03:27 PM

took your advice and have accessed plumbing throug ceiling in garage. That will be a easy fix. I have three drains that connect to this mess of a junction. I will try to post pics. I also have supply lines in the way of cutting the PVC. Will have to cut them out of the way also. What a mess. Thanks for now for the advice.


Man I wish I seen that flange fix earlier.. My toilet would be in and I would be pool side.......

econdave 07-06-2008 03:48 PM

photos of flange\pipe broken
 
heres what I have to deal with, any ideas?

Termite 07-06-2008 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by econdave (Post 136578)
Man I wish I seen that flange fix earlier.. My toilet would be in and I would be pool side.......

Wish I had known about the repair kit for a plastic flange so I could have advised doing that instead of replacement. Sorry! Even when you're around this stuff day in and day out, there's still always things you don't know. I just proved that. :no:

econdave 07-07-2008 03:03 PM

pics of mess
 
heres what I have to cut out and re-plumb. At least the access was easy and I dont have to tear out the floor..


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