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Old 09-08-2013, 07:00 PM   #1
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Toilet closet flanger not perfectly levelled


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I have just finalized the installation of a new toilet closet flange. The flange is not perfectly levelled. There's a 1/8" difference between the left side and the right side. I know this should be ok with most toilets but do you think it's necessary to try to level it ?

I'm a little bit of a perfectionist so I just wanted to get some feedback.

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Flange before (old damaged flange that I have replaced - plumber did a bad job at installing the original toilet):


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The first thing to do is to get it flush with your finish floor its too high.. The flange should be set to sit on the subfloor and properly fastened using all holes allocated for screws. If your subfloor is level than your flange will most always be level..gl
Also the pex sticking out of the wall doesnt look nice,next time use coppper stubouts as it will give you a more finished look..

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I agree with you, should be as level/flush as possible. Toilet may rock which is not good. Too much stress on one side. Call him back to install it correctly. Should be able to level/flush it better than that. Now's the time to address it before you go any further.
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The first thing to do is to get it flush with your finish floor its too high.. The flange should be set to sit on the subfloor and properly fastened using all holes allocated for screws. If your subfloor is level than your flange will most always be level..gl
Also the pex sticking out of the wall doesnt look nice,next time use coppper stubouts as it will give you a more finished look..
It's flush with the finish floor (the bottom of the flange has to sit on top of the finish floor as per the manufacturer instructions).
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It's flush with the finish floor (the bottom of the flange has to sit on top of the finish floor as per the manufacturer instructions).
I can see in the pics its too high the top of the flange should be flush not the bottom,im a jman plumber have been doing this a long time flanges are always flush to finish floor never had an issue..

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Strange. Always heard the opposite - that it had to be flush with the finish floor
When they installed our American Standard Champion 4, the closet flange was flush with the subfloor. On the first flush, it leaked. The plumber had to put a flange extension and said it was a common mistake to install a closet flange flush with the subfloor.

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The toilet flange itself doesn't have to be perfectly level, but should be flush with finish floor as that's where most of the toilet weight will be. Westbank has a nice graphic explaining it.
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Only problem I see with the thing is the all plastic flange. I prefer the Sioux chief with the stainless steel for the t-bolts.
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The toilet flange itself doesn't have to be perfectly level, but should be flush with finish floor as that's where most of the toilet weight will be. Westbank has a nice graphic explaining it.
It's flush with the finish floor on the left side but 1/8" below the finish floor on the right side. The tiler didn't install the tiles close enough so that the flange could sit on it.
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Only problem I see with the thing is the all plastic flange. I prefer the Sioux chief with the stainless steel for the t-bolts.
They only sell and install ABS closet flange around here. I would prefer stainless steel over ABS.
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It looks like your flange is set as low as you can get it.
IMO- the flange surface should never be below the finished floor and above is OK.
And you are within the tolerances for being level, remember- this is part of "rough in".

Anchor the flange and set your toilet, sit back and relax.
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Thanks TheEplumber. I will try to keep your quote in mind
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I would remove the screws and try to shim up the low side.
Then screw it back down.
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I wonder how many people have taken the bottome bowl....set it upside down...then take the bare flange and see how it fits to the bottom of the bowl?

If you did....you would quickly see that you have a lot of 'wiggle' room.
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If your installing a new toilet you might consider using the waxless fernco.

http://www.amazon.com/Fernco-Inc-FTS.../dp/B000BQUJEA

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